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Real question: Where's the best place to incorporate and host your site outside of the USA in order to sell software products globally with minimized hazard of

Real question: Where's the best place to incorporate and host your site outside of the USA in order to sell software products globally with minimized hazard of becoming a target by patent trolls? No need for it to be some kind of claimed tax haven or supposedly look the other way for content pirates, really just not worth a troll's effort for what they try to extract from a small company?

veeti 14y ago
It's not going to work on mobile. You are practically losing the entire market by going outside the Android/iOS app stores.
- jvrossb 14y ago
  I don't think that's what he was asking. I think he was asking about how to structure his corporation so as to be legally out of reach of patent trolls.
  - oniTony 14y ago
    The use of Android/iOS app stores likely ties you into the U.S. jurisdiction, which allows for an Australian company to sue a Swedish company in the state of Texas (Uniloc v. Mojang).
  - shredfvz 14y ago
    Your options are fight or flight. Assuming you have the wherewithal to incorporate a shell anonymously, that's one option. You might even get away with it. Good luck pitching that to investors. Might I suggest you look to the future. What's happening here is as clear as day: our patent system is out of control. It's out of touch with technology, out of touch with reality, and worse yet it's lining the pockets of the rich and corrupt at the cost of forward progress. What has Lodsys accomplished by doing this? Shown that it understands how to kick, extort, and squeal its way to profit by abusing its understanding of antiquated methodologies. Pond scum. No words. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4591002 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4591002
grey-area 14y ago
Companies all over the world were targeted by Lodsys, including 1 man companies in the UK. They targeted anyone selling in the US (which is a big market you wouldn't want to forgo) and prominent on the app store.
ktizo 14y ago
Philippines, maybe. http://iprotect.ph/intellectual-property-code-patent-01.htm http://iprotect.ph/intellectual-property-code-patent-01.htm
timClicks 14y ago
If this bill gets passed into law, New Zealand looks promising: http://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2008/0235/latest/DLM1419230.html http://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2008/0235/lat.... This may not happen though: http://no.softwarepatents.org.nz/problem http://no.softwarepatents.org.nz/problem

veeti 14y ago

It's not going to work on mobile. You are practically losing the entire market by going outside the Android/iOS app stores.

jvrossb 14y ago
I don't think that's what he was asking. I think he was asking about how to structure his corporation so as to be legally out of reach of patent trolls.
- oniTony 14y ago
  The use of Android/iOS app stores likely ties you into the U.S. jurisdiction, which allows for an Australian company to sue a Swedish company in the state of Texas (Uniloc v. Mojang).
- shredfvz 14y ago
  Your options are fight or flight. Assuming you have the wherewithal to incorporate a shell anonymously, that's one option. You might even get away with it. Good luck pitching that to investors. Might I suggest you look to the future. What's happening here is as clear as day: our patent system is out of control. It's out of touch with technology, out of touch with reality, and worse yet it's lining the pockets of the rich and corrupt at the cost of forward progress. What has Lodsys accomplished by doing this? Shown that it understands how to kick, extort, and squeal its way to profit by abusing its understanding of antiquated methodologies. Pond scum. No words. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4591002 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4591002

grey-area 14y ago

Companies all over the world were targeted by Lodsys, including 1 man companies in the UK. They targeted anyone selling in the US (which is a big market you wouldn't want to forgo) and prominent on the app store.

ktizo 14y ago

Philippines, maybe. http://iprotect.ph/intellectual-property-code-patent-01.htm http://iprotect.ph/intellectual-property-code-patent-01.htm

timClicks 14y ago

If this bill gets passed into law, New Zealand looks promising: http://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2008/0235/latest/DLM1419230.html http://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2008/0235/lat.... This may not happen though: http://no.softwarepatents.org.nz/problem http://no.softwarepatents.org.nz/problem