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Firefox should look like Librewolf first of all, Librewolf shouldn’t have to exist. Mozilla’s privacy stuff is marketing bullshit just like Apple. It shouldn’t

Firefox should look like Librewolf first of all, Librewolf shouldn’t have to exist. Mozilla’s privacy stuff is marketing bullshit just like Apple. It shouldn’t be doing ANYTHING that isn’t local only unless it’s explicitly opt in or user UI action oriented. The LLM part is absurd bc the entire overton window is in the wrong place.

PunchyHamster 10mo ago
It's frankly desperate trend chasing from management that lost after starting from near total market domination, and have no idea what to do now.
- takluyver 10mo ago
  > starting from near total market domination That's not really accurate: Firefox peaked somewhere around 30% market share back when IE was dominant, and then Chrome took over the top spot within a few years of launching. FWIW, I think there's just no good move for Mozilla. They're competing against 3 of the biggest companies in the world who can cross-subsidise browser development as a loss-leader, and can push their own browsers as the defaults on their respective platforms. The most obvious way to make money from a browser - harvesting user data - is largely unavailable to them.
  - BizarroLand 10mo ago
    I would rather firefox release a paid browser with no AI, or at least everything Opt-In, and more user control than to see them stuff unwanted features on users. I used firefox faithfully for a long time, but it's time for someone to take it out back and put it down. Also, I switched to Waterfox about a year ago and I have no complaints. The very worst thing about it is that when it updates its very in your face about it, and that is such a small annoyance that its easily negligible. Throw on an extension like Chrome Mask for those few websites that "require chrome" (as if that is an actual thing), a few privacy extensions, ecosia search, uBlacklist (to permablock certain sites from search results), and Content Farm Terminator to get rid of those mass produced slop sites that weasel their way into search results and you're going to have a much better experience than almost any other setup.
andai 10mo ago
As a side note, I was like "Isn't WaterFox the FF fork by that wolf guy?" Then I thought, "Aha! Surely LibreWolf is the one I'm thinking of!" Turns out no, it's a third one! It's PaleMoon...

PunchyHamster 10mo ago

It's frankly desperate trend chasing from management that lost after starting from near total market domination, and have no idea what to do now.

takluyver 10mo ago
> starting from near total market domination That's not really accurate: Firefox peaked somewhere around 30% market share back when IE was dominant, and then Chrome took over the top spot within a few years of launching. FWIW, I think there's just no good move for Mozilla. They're competing against 3 of the biggest companies in the world who can cross-subsidise browser development as a loss-leader, and can push their own browsers as the defaults on their respective platforms. The most obvious way to make money from a browser - harvesting user data - is largely unavailable to them.
- BizarroLand 10mo ago
  I would rather firefox release a paid browser with no AI, or at least everything Opt-In, and more user control than to see them stuff unwanted features on users. I used firefox faithfully for a long time, but it's time for someone to take it out back and put it down. Also, I switched to Waterfox about a year ago and I have no complaints. The very worst thing about it is that when it updates its very in your face about it, and that is such a small annoyance that its easily negligible. Throw on an extension like Chrome Mask for those few websites that "require chrome" (as if that is an actual thing), a few privacy extensions, ecosia search, uBlacklist (to permablock certain sites from search results), and Content Farm Terminator to get rid of those mass produced slop sites that weasel their way into search results and you're going to have a much better experience than almost any other setup.

andai 10mo ago

As a side note, I was like "Isn't WaterFox the FF fork by that wolf guy?" Then I thought, "Aha! Surely LibreWolf is the one I'm thinking of!" Turns out no, it's a third one! It's PaleMoon...