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I keep addressing your points and you keep moaning about other people. Since sex and gender are not different until you are able to provide some reason that the

I keep addressing your points and you keep moaning about other people. Since sex and gender are not different until you are able to provide some reason that they are beyond bare assertion then gametes are relevant. > you could tell us all what the scientific discovery was that made gender separate from sex, who found it and when, and what the defining difference is. Did they win a Nobel for that? Take your time, but please avoid making me restate what I've written along with the obvious implications simply because you find it all too inconvenient to address.

lovich 10mo ago
> I keep addressing your points… No you did not. > Since sex and gender are not different until you are able to provide some reason that they are beyond bare assertion then gametes are relevant. Sex is a parameter of biology, gender is a parameter of social constructs. You are also having bare assertions that they are the same. Gametes are not relevant. You are unable to discern between different values. Also stop bringing up the Nobel prize like it matters for the conversation. You are the one who interjected it into the conversation. Edit: added after the post. To make sure I am not speaking to a bot, can you tell me who the first person in this thread was that mentioned the word “gamete”
- pelheit 10mo ago
  I've yet to see a definition of gender that isn't based on restrictive and harmful sex stereotypes, or is circular and empty. It's not a helpful concept.
- brigandish 10mo ago
  > To make sure I am not speaking to a bot Do grow up. > Sex is a parameter of biology, gender is a parameter of social constructs. So you assert, but until you can show the moment that gender was shown to be different from sex beyond bare assertion then I'm not willing to accept your assertion. Do you see how that works? > Gametes are not relevant. They are relevant to sex determination and hence gender, see previous paragraph for why. That's all your points, if they can be called that, addressed. > Also stop bringing up the Nobel prize like it matters for the conversation. You'll need to provide something that can be competitive for it to have any impact <shrug>. I won't hold my breath.
  - lovich 10mo ago
    > > To make sure I am not speaking to a bot > Do grow up. When I quote a fragment of someone else’s sentence I usually add an ellipses(…) to show that there’s more context and not imply a full statement, but you do you Since you dropped the part about me asking you to state how the thread started, I am assuming this is at least a person dropping a prompt into ChatGPT and regurgitating it without editing. Have a good day
    - brigandish 10mo ago
      We all handle cognitive dissonance in our our way.

lovich 10mo ago

> I keep addressing your points… No you did not. > Since sex and gender are not different until you are able to provide some reason that they are beyond bare assertion then gametes are relevant. Sex is a parameter of biology, gender is a parameter of social constructs. You are also having bare assertions that they are the same. Gametes are not relevant. You are unable to discern between different values. Also stop bringing up the Nobel prize like it matters for the conversation. You are the one who interjected it into the conversation. Edit: added after the post. To make sure I am not speaking to a bot, can you tell me who the first person in this thread was that mentioned the word “gamete”

pelheit 10mo ago
I've yet to see a definition of gender that isn't based on restrictive and harmful sex stereotypes, or is circular and empty. It's not a helpful concept.
brigandish 10mo ago
> To make sure I am not speaking to a bot Do grow up. > Sex is a parameter of biology, gender is a parameter of social constructs. So you assert, but until you can show the moment that gender was shown to be different from sex beyond bare assertion then I'm not willing to accept your assertion. Do you see how that works? > Gametes are not relevant. They are relevant to sex determination and hence gender, see previous paragraph for why. That's all your points, if they can be called that, addressed. > Also stop bringing up the Nobel prize like it matters for the conversation. You'll need to provide something that can be competitive for it to have any impact <shrug>. I won't hold my breath.
- lovich 10mo ago
  > > To make sure I am not speaking to a bot > Do grow up. When I quote a fragment of someone else’s sentence I usually add an ellipses(…) to show that there’s more context and not imply a full statement, but you do you Since you dropped the part about me asking you to state how the thread started, I am assuming this is at least a person dropping a prompt into ChatGPT and regurgitating it without editing. Have a good day
  - brigandish 10mo ago
    We all handle cognitive dissonance in our our way.