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I’m of the belief that HN would benefit from showing a user’s up-votes and down-votes, and perhaps even the post that happened within. Also limit down votes per

I’m of the belief that HN would benefit from showing a user’s up-votes and down-votes, and perhaps even the post that happened within. Also limit down votes per day, or at least make karma points pay for them. There is definitely an “uneven and subjective” distribution of down-votes and it would be healthy to add some transparency.

RiverCrochet 10mo ago
> I’m of the belief that HN would benefit from showing a user’s up-votes and down-votes Posting history of any account is already visible. That's already a lot of transparency. Having individual account vote histories visible won't add any benefit, but will increase ad hominem attacks within discussions, and will also increase hive-mind type voting. Hacker News is just a discussion forum. This isn't real life. The focus should be on the discussion more than the people-there's not much in the way of profiles. It's weird to ask more of a discussion forum than a government election process which actually does matter. > Also limit down votes per day Posts can already only be downvoted for a limited duration. You also can't downvote until you have 500 points. If you require spending points downvoting, it simply further incentivizes point harvesting or spending all day on HN so you can have more power, which only drives non-genuine activity. I think personally once you reach 1000 points a star should be displayed instead of the score.
- chiefalchemist 10mo ago
  Why wouldn’t vote history help? If I see a DV from a chronic DV’er that has no value. I’m not going to adjust my opinion / behavior because of some asshole. Along the same lines, if I say something less-than-flattering about say Google, but then get DV’ed by some Google fanboy/fangirl… again that feedback has no meaning. Context matters. Sources matters. As for incentives… yeah *if you’re a troll-hole it does. But publishing you DV count also exposes you. There should be more transparency.
  - RiverCrochet 10mo ago
    A simple display of posts in the last X minutes/days is a great heuristic of authenticity without me having to dig through post histories or feed it into an LLM. LLM integration that I can control-e.g. have options I can enable or disable like "Block posts with logical fallacies and inform the poster of the block without notifying me"-would be awesome. Looking through post histories manually is time consuming and ultimately wouldn't work if new account creation is free. Once you start spending more time your haters than they spend on you, you've lost.

RiverCrochet 10mo ago

> I’m of the belief that HN would benefit from showing a user’s up-votes and down-votes Posting history of any account is already visible. That's already a lot of transparency. Having individual account vote histories visible won't add any benefit, but will increase ad hominem attacks within discussions, and will also increase hive-mind type voting. Hacker News is just a discussion forum. This isn't real life. The focus should be on the discussion more than the people-there's not much in the way of profiles. It's weird to ask more of a discussion forum than a government election process which actually does matter. > Also limit down votes per day Posts can already only be downvoted for a limited duration. You also can't downvote until you have 500 points. If you require spending points downvoting, it simply further incentivizes point harvesting or spending all day on HN so you can have more power, which only drives non-genuine activity. I think personally once you reach 1000 points a star should be displayed instead of the score.

chiefalchemist 10mo ago
Why wouldn’t vote history help? If I see a DV from a chronic DV’er that has no value. I’m not going to adjust my opinion / behavior because of some asshole. Along the same lines, if I say something less-than-flattering about say Google, but then get DV’ed by some Google fanboy/fangirl… again that feedback has no meaning. Context matters. Sources matters. As for incentives… yeah *if you’re a troll-hole it does. But publishing you DV count also exposes you. There should be more transparency.
- RiverCrochet 10mo ago
  A simple display of posts in the last X minutes/days is a great heuristic of authenticity without me having to dig through post histories or feed it into an LLM. LLM integration that I can control-e.g. have options I can enable or disable like "Block posts with logical fallacies and inform the poster of the block without notifying me"-would be awesome. Looking through post histories manually is time consuming and ultimately wouldn't work if new account creation is free. Once you start spending more time your haters than they spend on you, you've lost.