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Oh come on, SLIP over MIDI is tried and true.

by jacquesm 11mo ago

compiler-guy 11mo ago
Note the word order here. Googling “slip over midi” gives a lot of fashion blogging about mini dresses and slips that one wears under them, so I’m not quite sure what you mean. But if you mean “midi over slip”, then that is the inverse case from what I am suggesting. Midi over slip (and slip could be any tcpip substrate, such as ethernet) has midi messages as the payload, carried via tcpip. I’m talking about using midi messages to carry tcpip payloads. You can absolutely do it, but it isn’t really what the protocol is designed for.
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- jacquesm 11mo ago
  No, I meant it exactly like that SLIP over MIDI. I know there are plenty of MIDI over TCP/IP and UDP implementations but that's not what I had in mind. And what google turns up when you enter those exact three words in a row is really none of my business. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Line_Internet_Protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Line_Internet_Protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI
  - compiler-guy 11mo ago
    I used SLIP all the time back in the day, and I use MIDI all the time in my home music setup. The wikipedia articles don't tell me anything I don't already know. I suppose someone somewhere has done it (and I have always said that you can), but my best internet searches with a wide variety of terms don't show any old tutorials or products that explain how. Nor can I find anything else that uses MIDI to send tcpip packets over the MIDI connection. Not even a mention. My Google-fu may be totally weak, but whatever. I freshly, happily and totally concede that people have in the past used MIDI to send SLIP packets, and it is well understood how. Great. You are totally correct. But all of this just proves the original point. It either precedes anything on the internet today, or is so obscure that no search engine can find it. Either way, if no one uses it or even bothers to explain how, I think it is pretty fair to conclude that it is rather unergonomic, and hacky, and doesn't provide all the features one really wants in a network connection.
    - jacquesm 11mo ago
      I think you are taking this all way too seriously. Think IP over avian carriers.
      - seg_lol 11mo ago
        You would need two midi connections, one for each direction.
- bigstrat2003 11mo ago
  You got whooshed pretty hard here. The post you were responding to was a joke.

Oh come on, SLIP over MIDI is tried and true.

Note the word order here. Googling “slip over midi” gives a lot of fashion blogging about mini dresses and slips that one wears under them, so I’m not quite sure what you mean. But if you mean “midi over slip”, then that is the inverse case from what I am suggesting. Midi over slip (and slip could be any tcpip substrate, such as ethernet) has midi messages as the payload, carried via tcpip. I’m talking about using midi messages to carry tcpip payloads. You can absolutely do it, but it isn’t really what the protocol is designed for.

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jacquesm 11mo ago
No, I meant it exactly like that SLIP over MIDI. I know there are plenty of MIDI over TCP/IP and UDP implementations but that's not what I had in mind. And what google turns up when you enter those exact three words in a row is really none of my business. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Line_Internet_Protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Line_Internet_Protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI
- compiler-guy 11mo ago
  I used SLIP all the time back in the day, and I use MIDI all the time in my home music setup. The wikipedia articles don't tell me anything I don't already know. I suppose someone somewhere has done it (and I have always said that you can), but my best internet searches with a wide variety of terms don't show any old tutorials or products that explain how. Nor can I find anything else that uses MIDI to send tcpip packets over the MIDI connection. Not even a mention. My Google-fu may be totally weak, but whatever. I freshly, happily and totally concede that people have in the past used MIDI to send SLIP packets, and it is well understood how. Great. You are totally correct. But all of this just proves the original point. It either precedes anything on the internet today, or is so obscure that no search engine can find it. Either way, if no one uses it or even bothers to explain how, I think it is pretty fair to conclude that it is rather unergonomic, and hacky, and doesn't provide all the features one really wants in a network connection.
  - jacquesm 11mo ago
    I think you are taking this all way too seriously. Think IP over avian carriers.
    - seg_lol 11mo ago
      You would need two midi connections, one for each direction.
bigstrat2003 11mo ago
You got whooshed pretty hard here. The post you were responding to was a joke.