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I still use Midjourney, because all of these major players are so bad at stylistic and creative work. They're singularly focused on photorealism.

FergusArgyll 10mo ago
That's the opinionated vs user choice dynamic. When the opinions are good, they have a leg up
kingkawn 10mo ago
This is a cultural flaw that predates image generation. Even PG has made statements on HN in the past equating “rendering skill” with the quality of art works. It’s a stand-in for the much more difficult task of understanding the work and value of culture making within the context of the society producing it.
- doctorpangloss 10mo ago
  Suppose the deck for Midjourney hit Paul Graham's desk, and the CEO was just an average Y Combinator CEO - so no previous success story. He would have never invested in Midjourney at seed stage (meaning before launch / before there were users) even if he were given the opportunity. Better to read that particular story in the context of, "It would be very difficult to make a seed fund that is an index of all avant garde culture making because [whatever]."
xnx 10mo ago
This is surprising. Is there a gallery of images that illustrates this?
- takoid 10mo ago
  Midjourney has a gallery on their website: https://www.midjourney.com/explore https://www.midjourney.com/explore
- throwthrowuknow 10mo ago
  their explore page is a firehose of examples created by users and you can see the prompt used so you can compare the results in other services https://www.midjourney.com/explore?tab=video_top https://www.midjourney.com/explore?tab=video_top
ianbicking 10mo ago
I haven't really kept up with what Midjourney has been doing the past year or two. While I liked the stylistic aspects of Midjourney, being able to use image examples to maintain stylistic consistency and character consistency is SO useful for creating any meaningful output. Have they done anything in that respect? That is, it's nice to make a pretty stand-alone image, but without tools to maintain consistency and place them in context you can't make a project that is more than just one image, or one video, or a scattered and disconnected sequence of pieces.
empressplay 10mo ago
That's because it's a two-way street, a multi-modal model that is highly proficient at real-life image generation is also highly proficient at interpreting real-life image input, which is something sorely needed for robotics.
Sohcahtoa82 10mo ago
In my experience, MidJourney creates the best overall-looking images, but it's the worst at sticking to your prompt.

FergusArgyll 10mo ago

That's the opinionated vs user choice dynamic. When the opinions are good, they have a leg up

kingkawn 10mo ago

This is a cultural flaw that predates image generation. Even PG has made statements on HN in the past equating “rendering skill” with the quality of art works. It’s a stand-in for the much more difficult task of understanding the work and value of culture making within the context of the society producing it.

doctorpangloss 10mo ago
Suppose the deck for Midjourney hit Paul Graham's desk, and the CEO was just an average Y Combinator CEO - so no previous success story. He would have never invested in Midjourney at seed stage (meaning before launch / before there were users) even if he were given the opportunity. Better to read that particular story in the context of, "It would be very difficult to make a seed fund that is an index of all avant garde culture making because [whatever]."

xnx 10mo ago

This is surprising. Is there a gallery of images that illustrates this?

takoid 10mo ago
Midjourney has a gallery on their website: https://www.midjourney.com/explore https://www.midjourney.com/explore
throwthrowuknow 10mo ago
their explore page is a firehose of examples created by users and you can see the prompt used so you can compare the results in other services https://www.midjourney.com/explore?tab=video_top https://www.midjourney.com/explore?tab=video_top

ianbicking 10mo ago

I haven't really kept up with what Midjourney has been doing the past year or two. While I liked the stylistic aspects of Midjourney, being able to use image examples to maintain stylistic consistency and character consistency is SO useful for creating any meaningful output. Have they done anything in that respect? That is, it's nice to make a pretty stand-alone image, but without tools to maintain consistency and place them in context you can't make a project that is more than just one image, or one video, or a scattered and disconnected sequence of pieces.

empressplay 10mo ago

That's because it's a two-way street, a multi-modal model that is highly proficient at real-life image generation is also highly proficient at interpreting real-life image input, which is something sorely needed for robotics.

Sohcahtoa82 10mo ago

In my experience, MidJourney creates the best overall-looking images, but it's the worst at sticking to your prompt.