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And for the record, I could write a multi-page rant about how Suno is not actually what I want; its shitty UI (which will no doubt change soon) and crappy reinv

by titzer 10mo ago

And for the record, I could write a multi-page rant about how Suno is not actually what I want; its shitty UI (which will no doubt change soon) and crappy reinvention of the DAW is absolutely underpowered for tweaking and composing songs how I want. We should instead be integrating these new music creation models into both professional tools and also making the AI tools less of a push-button one-stop shop, but giving better control rather than just meakly pawing in the direction of what you want with prompts.

BeFlatXIII 10mo ago
Yes! I want my AI music generator to spit out stems and sheet music I can rearrange, not finished mp3 files.
- titzer 10mo ago
  Suno's stem extraction is miserable. MIDI transcription is totally fubar'd.
- cons0le 10mo ago
  Because none of these AI tech bros give a dam about music. I thought with ai we would be able to put all the "timbres" of instruments into vector database and create a truly new instrument sound. Like making a new color for the first time. But no we get none of that. We get mega shitty corporate covers. I would rather hear music that's a little bad than artificially perfect sounding.
  - underlipton 10mo ago
    Micronotal instruments get close to hitting that spot for me. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/N19WNiy-T0M https://www.youtube.com/shorts/N19WNiy-T0M https://www.youtube.com/shorts/o-IMV5OLCsU https://www.youtube.com/shorts/o-IMV5OLCsU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjcQyQYhA7g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjcQyQYhA7g
    - cons0le 10mo ago
      My friend has one of these, but they never caught on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2syqXx97LE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2syqXx97LE
      - vegadw 10mo ago
        I had a seaboard. They didn't catch on because the surface isn't very consistent, it's hard to actually hit a note and not bend without setting the "dead zone" pretty large, and the surface itself is just not a great texture to play on. The ExpressiveE Osmose is proving to be quite popular. I have one, as do 3 other musicians I know personally. It's a very similar idea, but a lot more mechanical. There's other options too. The Ableton Push 3, Linstrument, Haken Continuum, and a few other MPE synths/controllers all do a better job than the Seaboard by miles. The Osmose is my reccomendation for most people currently, based on the half dozen or so MPE controllers I've had my own hands on and it's price, but I'd love to get my hands on a Continuum.

by titzer 10mo ago

BeFlatXIII 10mo ago

Yes! I want my AI music generator to spit out stems and sheet music I can rearrange, not finished mp3 files.

titzer 10mo ago
Suno's stem extraction is miserable. MIDI transcription is totally fubar'd.
cons0le 10mo ago
Because none of these AI tech bros give a dam about music. I thought with ai we would be able to put all the "timbres" of instruments into vector database and create a truly new instrument sound. Like making a new color for the first time. But no we get none of that. We get mega shitty corporate covers. I would rather hear music that's a little bad than artificially perfect sounding.
- underlipton 10mo ago
  Micronotal instruments get close to hitting that spot for me. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/N19WNiy-T0M https://www.youtube.com/shorts/N19WNiy-T0M https://www.youtube.com/shorts/o-IMV5OLCsU https://www.youtube.com/shorts/o-IMV5OLCsU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjcQyQYhA7g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjcQyQYhA7g
  - cons0le 10mo ago
    My friend has one of these, but they never caught on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2syqXx97LE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2syqXx97LE
    - vegadw 10mo ago
      I had a seaboard. They didn't catch on because the surface isn't very consistent, it's hard to actually hit a note and not bend without setting the "dead zone" pretty large, and the surface itself is just not a great texture to play on. The ExpressiveE Osmose is proving to be quite popular. I have one, as do 3 other musicians I know personally. It's a very similar idea, but a lot more mechanical. There's other options too. The Ableton Push 3, Linstrument, Haken Continuum, and a few other MPE synths/controllers all do a better job than the Seaboard by miles. The Osmose is my reccomendation for most people currently, based on the half dozen or so MPE controllers I've had my own hands on and it's price, but I'd love to get my hands on a Continuum.