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> The reality is quite complicated. Canadian English is a version of North American English, with a distinctive pronunciation and sub-dialect, but still has ves
by palmotea 11mo ago
> The reality is quite complicated. Canadian English is a version of North American English, with a distinctive pronunciation and sub-dialect, but still has vestiges of British English that are lost in America.
Does Canadian English still use "gotten"? IIRC, that's a vestige of British English that's been lost in Britain.
- actionfromafar 11mo agoExcept ill gotten gains?
- Tiktaalik 11mo agoYes (though I feel it's always had an awkward air about its use, and it feels more polite and high class to use received)
- gpm 11mo agoThe rest of the world doesn't consider 'gotten' a proper word?
- ghc 11mo agoNew Englander here. Gotten is normal vocabulary. If it's not used in British English, then it's probably a feature of North American English, since most North American linguistic differences are snapshots of common features of 16th-17th century British English that somehow ossified over here. Edit: It appears my conjecture was correct: https://www.sarahwoodbury.com/on-the-use-of-the-word-gotten/ https://www.sarahwoodbury.com/on-the-use-of-the-word-gotten/
- nchmy 11mo agoWhat I'm most interested is not usage of "gotten", but whether somewhere in the English-speaking world, using "I've" standalone (without a follow-on got, been, had etc) is normal. I see it from time to time online, and immediately assume they're a non-native speaker who doesn't understand the nonsensical nuances of the language. Eg people will say something like "I've 3 apples", which is just "I have 3 apples", which is perfectly gramattical. But, for some reason, we use "I've got 3 apples". But I think we'd also say "I have 3 apples" and not "I have got 3 apples". Language is weird.
- circuit10 11mo agoI'm from England and I'm pretty sure gotten is a normal word here?