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They did not signal that they were fine with either candidate by not voting.

by bmacho 10mo ago

acdha 10mo ago
> don't think one can blame them, not voting can be a legit option for many reasons, With the exception of people who have religious beliefs prohibiting voting, it’s saying that you don’t feel strongly enough about the differences between the two candidates to pick one. There are some people who can plead various hardships, but most people don’t have that excuse: it really did come down to thinking their life would be fine either way.
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- freeopinion 10mo ago
  Or thinking they were sunk either way.
- sigwinch 10mo ago
  No, in the US electoral formula, not every vote for President will make a difference. Seven out of 50 states are close, so in 43 states it’s only a protest vote.
  - acdha 10mo ago
    It still matters for the popular vote and all of the downstream candidates. People who stay home inevitably complain about local changes which also were on the ballot. I strongly support national electoral vote reform but it’s important to remember that every election really does matter.
  - krior 10mo ago
    Then maybe its time to ask yourself: do you live in a democracy when you cannot make your vote count?
krior 10mo ago
Their intend may have been another, but the outcome is that they supported whoever was winning.
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- freeopinion 10mo ago
  Ridiculous. Do you blame all Venezuelans for their current government? You shouldn't.
  - TitaRusell 10mo ago
    Yes. Chavez was democratically elected. Maduro is not an alien he was born in Venezuela. Why did Venezuela become what it is today? Every citizen is responsible for what their country turned into. Ofcourse I do not expect anyone in the Venezuelan diaspora do any kind of introspection or soul-searching. Venezuela was a beautiful South American Switzerland and it is all the fault of the evil Cubans.
  - krior 10mo ago
    In a democracy every citizen is responsible for the actions of their state.
    - bmacho 10mo ago
      Not the people who voted for the losing candidates!
      - krior 10mo ago
        In a healthy democracy there are more ways than just voting to influence the countrys political affairs. Democracy has a price, voting every four years is not enough.
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keeganpoppen 10mo ago
as someone who has never voted, i am absolutely okay with this characterization. i often hold my tongue when it comes to complaining about political stuff because i dont really feel like i have the right to. i mean, of course i HAVE the right, but the hypocrisy isn’t. to be clear: this is not the same thing as being animated about general gov. malfeasance, which is something that everyone is in the right to complain about, as the operation of the government isn’t a politics-specific issue in a lot of cases.

They did not signal that they were fine with either candidate by not voting.

by bmacho 10mo ago

They did not signal that they were fine with either candidate by not voting.

acdha 10mo ago

> don't think one can blame them, not voting can be a legit option for many reasons, With the exception of people who have religious beliefs prohibiting voting, it’s saying that you don’t feel strongly enough about the differences between the two candidates to pick one. There are some people who can plead various hardships, but most people don’t have that excuse: it really did come down to thinking their life would be fine either way.

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freeopinion 10mo ago
Or thinking they were sunk either way.
sigwinch 10mo ago
No, in the US electoral formula, not every vote for President will make a difference. Seven out of 50 states are close, so in 43 states it’s only a protest vote.
- acdha 10mo ago
  It still matters for the popular vote and all of the downstream candidates. People who stay home inevitably complain about local changes which also were on the ballot. I strongly support national electoral vote reform but it’s important to remember that every election really does matter.
- krior 10mo ago
  Then maybe its time to ask yourself: do you live in a democracy when you cannot make your vote count?

krior 10mo ago

Their intend may have been another, but the outcome is that they supported whoever was winning.

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freeopinion 10mo ago
Ridiculous. Do you blame all Venezuelans for their current government? You shouldn't.
- TitaRusell 10mo ago
  Yes. Chavez was democratically elected. Maduro is not an alien he was born in Venezuela. Why did Venezuela become what it is today? Every citizen is responsible for what their country turned into. Ofcourse I do not expect anyone in the Venezuelan diaspora do any kind of introspection or soul-searching. Venezuela was a beautiful South American Switzerland and it is all the fault of the evil Cubans.
- krior 10mo ago
  In a democracy every citizen is responsible for the actions of their state.
  - bmacho 10mo ago
    Not the people who voted for the losing candidates!
    - krior 10mo ago
      In a healthy democracy there are more ways than just voting to influence the countrys political affairs. Democracy has a price, voting every four years is not enough.
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keeganpoppen 10mo ago

as someone who has never voted, i am absolutely okay with this characterization. i often hold my tongue when it comes to complaining about political stuff because i dont really feel like i have the right to. i mean, of course i HAVE the right, but the hypocrisy isn’t. to be clear: this is not the same thing as being animated about general gov. malfeasance, which is something that everyone is in the right to complain about, as the operation of the government isn’t a politics-specific issue in a lot of cases.