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I've never heard anything about a change to British spelling. Sounds like nonsense. Carney is the most popular politician Canada has had in decades. The opposi

I've never heard anything about a change to British spelling. Sounds like nonsense. Carney is the most popular politician Canada has had in decades. The opposition party is starting to fall apart (two members defected, which means Carney's party is one seat away from a majority). Whole thing sounds like an attempt to manufacture an 'Obama beige suit' moment.

eru 10mo ago
> Carney is the most popular politician Canada has had in decades. All thanks to Trump's silly tariffs. There's a silver lining to everything. I hope that the association makes protectionism politically taboo for decades to come.
- vkou 10mo ago
  > All thanks to Trump's silly tariffs The tariffs were just half of it, the attacks on national sovereignty were the other, and Pierre being his usual shallow and despicable self on the campaign trail were the third. If Carney (or almost anyone but PP, really) were the head of the CPC, they'd have had a majority today. But looking at where the party's going, it's doubtful that the CPC will ever again elect a leader who can both read and write.
- palmotea 10mo ago
  > I hope that the association makes protectionism politically taboo for decades to come. That is waaaay too black and white. Trump's actions != protectionism, Trump's actions ⊂ protectionism (and have been stupid). Free trade and globalization has failed most of the world in pretty serious ways (though it's been great for the much of the elite, floating on top of big piles of capital). Protectionism is important, it just needs to be conducted in a smarter way (instead of indiscriminately tariffing everyone all the sudden)
  - throw0101d 10mo ago
    >> I hope that the association makes protectionism politically taboo for decades to come. > That is waaaay too black and white. We're talking about Trump here: of course it's black and white. > Free trade and globalization has failed most of the world in pretty serious ways (though it's been great for the much of the elite, floating on top of big piles of capital). I don't know: extreme poverty has been driven down quite effectively AFAICT: * https://www.gapminder.org/questions/gms1-3/ https://www.gapminder.org/questions/gms1-3/ * https://www.gapminder.org/data/documentation/epovrate/ https://www.gapminder.org/data/documentation/epovrate/ * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_China Wealth inequality dropped after the Gilded Age and post-WW2 until the 1970s (in the US); nothing said it couldn't have been kept down (say, if Reagan was not elected). There's nothing inherent to free trade and globalization that should lead to it if are willing to redistribution (e.g., through taxation and social programs).
    - eru 10mo ago
      > We're talking about Trump here: of course it's black and white. Trump might portrait things that way, but that doesn't mean we need to analyse anything involving him that way. > Wealth inequality dropped after the Gilded Age and post-WW2 until the 1970s (in the US); [...] Well, if you take on a more global perspective: global inequality absolutely skyrocketed until the 1970s and has only gradually been climbing down since then. Numerically, the biggest contributor was Mao strangling the Chinese economy (and people) until his death, and then Deng Xiaoping took over and relaxed the grip around their throats. But outsourcing and container shipping and lower tariffs helped a lot, too. Not just in relation with China, but for everyone on the globe. I'm sick of portraying the era until the 1970s as some kind of golden age. It was the nadir for most people on the globe in terms of equality, not the zenith.
      - throw0101d 10mo ago
        > Well, if you take on a more global perspective: global inequality absolutely skyrocketed until the 1970s and has only gradually been climbing down since then. Probably because pre-WW2 and globalization most people on the planet were equally poor. > I'm sick of portraying the era until the 1970s as some kind of golden age. It was the nadir for most people on the globe in terms of equality, not the zenith. The 1970s were mostly the zenith of recent technological advancement: certainly personal computing and the Internet came after, but there really hasn't been any major invention. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_and_Fall_of_American_Growth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_and_Fall_of_American_... Post-1970s technology has become more equally distributed (à la Gibson), and that has been through globalization.
  - leosanchez 10mo ago
    > Free trade and globalization has failed most of the world in pretty serious ways (though it's been great for the much of the elite, floating on top of big piles of capital). Globalization benefits capital in rich countries and labor in poor countries. As someone who is from a poor and corrupt country, I have seen many people around me come out of poverty due to globalization. I can agree that globalization can be bad for labor in rich countries. Edit: Ironically your comment is also waaaay too black and white.
    - petcat 10mo ago
      > I have seen many people around me come out of poverty due to globalization. This is definitely true and Phil Knight of Nike fame even said that without the opportunity to join his slave workforce in Vietnam, those people would be worse off.
      - leosanchez 10mo ago
        > without the opportunity to join his slave workforce in Vietnam, those people would be worse off. I am not sure if you are being sarcastic here. But without Amazon many people in my country will be worse off, however bad the working conditions maybe.
        petcat 10mo ago
        Yes it is tongue-in-cheek. I know it's a good proposition for the poor people of that country. But it is pretty widely viewed as exploitative through a wider world lens.
        leosanchez 10mo ago
        > But it is pretty widely viewed as exploitative through a wider world lens. If so, I hope we get exploited even more :)
        shadowgovt 10mo ago
        I remember Planet Money doing a pretty good story on this where they spoke with sweatshop workers in Bangladesh. Relative to the labor wage of employees in the US, they were earning absolute pennies. Relative to the places they came from? They doubled their income and were functionally free from concerns about things like famine and infected drinkable water. Exploitation of labor is a complicated topic (and really, the meta-fight is, as is so often the case, not between nations; it's between labor and capital. Offshoring is just another form of scabbing, but the world is not yet small enough that one should expect a fresh-off-the-farm factory worker who just had their prospects opened up to join a global strike because people in the US want to make $15/hr). (Related: As is so often the case, if you want things better for your folks back home, lift everyone out of poverty and make everyone safe. People are less likley to take "slave-wage" jobs if the alternative is not subsistence and high risk of unpredictable outcome due to localized supply disruption, disease outbreak, or war).
- bsimpson 10mo ago
  > I hope that the association makes protectionism politically taboo for decades to come. I thought it already was, before Trump. I still can't believe they ended de minimus and tariffed everything.
  - eru 10mo ago
    > I thought it already was, before Trump. Not in the US, at least. Every administration since at least Bush jr slapped tariffs on a few things here and there, and mostly kept the previous admin's ad hoc tariffs in place. In more practical places, like Singapore where I live, you'd be right: tariffs are by and large unthinkable.
canadiantim 10mo ago
Trudeau was more popular at his start, but we saw where that led us…
- thomassmith65 10mo ago
  The press wrote more about Justin Trudeau, but his peak approval rating was lower than Carney's.
  - boringg 10mo ago
    Peak approval for Trudeau was over 64% - Carney hasn't hit that high water mark yet. Now peak to trough - I think Trudeau probably had the biggest fall.
- brailsafe 10mo ago
  Using nearly the exact same rhetoric and party platform, with the exception of austerity measures. Only difference really seems to be that he knows how to pass a budget, but hasn't really offered anything substantial in terms of hope to the working age population
CanuckThrowAway 10mo ago
It was used in the recent budget documents. > Canadian English has been the standard in government communications for decades. But eagle-eyed linguists and editors have spotted British spellings — like "globalisation" and "catalyse" — in documents from the Carney government, including the budget.
- mikestorrent 10mo ago
  The entire world has already wasted enough calories on caring about this.
- thomassmith65 10mo ago
  I should clarify. My assumption is that any instances of British spelling in the document(s) were accidental. The petition, otoh, implies that Carney's office has adopted a policy of using British spelling. The 'new policy' explanation is more surprising than mine. It makes a difference. If the conventional explanation is the right one, then this fuss is over a few minor spelling mistakes, as opposed to Carney exercising poor judgment.
- jamincan 10mo ago
  Apparently it was acceptable to use s or z in words like catalyse or analyze in British English until Microsoft Word came out with a British English spellchecker that picked the s spelling as its standard. Whether this is just myth or fact seems to be a point of controversy.
  - gbil 10mo ago
    I learned British English starting in the 80s and using s whereas z was used in American English, together with tre instead of ter (eg. theatre), was a big difference. And I can tell you that MS Word back then was just not there so this sounds like an urban legend but let the British people in HN chime in.
    - nephihaha 10mo ago
      Both -ise and -ize are UK spelling. One is favoured by Oxford and the other by Cambridge.
samdoesnothing 10mo ago
> Carney is the most popular politician Canada has had in decades That's just blatantly untrue?
- thomassmith65 10mo ago
  I'm basing that on the Prime Ministers, anyhow. Jean Chrétien is the most recent Canadian Prime Minister that I remember a wide spectrum of Canadians liking (and by 2000, not as much). Justin Trudeau appealed many American journalists, but only to some Canadians. If I missed an obvious politician, I will happily concede.
  - a3c9 10mo ago
    By gut feeling I’d agree on Chrétien, and there is some polling on this (which I think backs that up). This article compares favourability after first election for PMs going back quite a ways and Carney looks similar but slightly worse off than Trudeau or Harper. https://angusreid.org/prime-minister-mark-carney-first-month-government-priorities-trade-barriers-housing/ https://angusreid.org/prime-minister-mark-carney-first-month...
    - thomassmith65 10mo ago
      Well then, I concede! To stick to my guns would require us to trade competing survey results from different pollsters. That's no fun, and unsatisfying, in any case.
      - boringg 10mo ago
        Yeah but without that your just making stuff up and nobody wants that except you.
        thomassmith65 10mo ago
        That is reasonable, and why I conceded the point. Unfortunately, I cannot remember where the notion got into my head, and it's a bigger pain then it might seem trawling search results to find current articles with peak approval for both men.
danudey 10mo ago
The opposition party is falling apart because, despite being a Liberal government, the Liberal party is being a better Conservative party than the Conservatives were while the Conservatives have no platform or plan other than 'Liberals bad, lol' (or, somehow, 'Trudeau bad, lol').
- thomassmith65 10mo ago
  Yes. Additionally, Poilievre's attitude is tone deaf. Canadians are fearful of and anxious about Trump's foreign policy. Most Canadian politicians have been savvy enough to know voters crave a reassuring, united front. Poilievre's combativeness is a bad fit for the current moment.
  - flaboonka 10mo ago
    While Poilievre is unpopular, the Conservative party has been essentially neck-and-neck with the Liberals for months. https://338canada.com/polls.htm https://338canada.com/polls.htm
    - swat535 10mo ago
      Conservatives will shift their strategy but parent's claim of Carney being the most popular of PM of all the time is blatantly false. Conservatives have had best showing at a federal election in decades. 41.3% of the popular vote. Over 3.1 million CPC voters in Ontario alone.
- YC3498723948732 10mo ago
  The first conservative MP to defect said that the caucus has a "frat party atmosphere"[1]. The last MP to defect used to be CIO at Royal Bank of Canada. My suspicion is that the conservatives are being run internally like a boys' club revolving around PP and the Liberals are having no difficulty peeling off MPs who went in expecting a professional workplace. Disaster. 1: https://www.thestar.com/politics/political-opinion/is-pierre-poilievre-running-a-political-party-or-a-frat-house/article_9c74b6d8-3615-4e25-a8ae-a329621803c2.html https://www.thestar.com/politics/political-opinion/is-pierre...
dataviz1000 10mo ago
But, does he use the Oxford comma? This is as stupid as starting a war over cracking the big end or little end of an egg. Or, using whatever book was about that subject as a spelling style guide.
- markdown 10mo ago
  > But, does he use the Oxford comma? Bro don't even joke about that
- PaulDavisThe1st 10mo ago
  that's much less important than where he places a full stop when there are parenthetical remarks (such as here).
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- goopypoop 10mo ago
  you crack the ends of eggs?!
  - jjgreen 10mo ago
    When boiled, for example (this a reference to Swift's Gulliver's Travels)
    - mikestew 10mo ago
      And hence big endian and little endian byte orders. (Yeah, but somebody doesn’t know that.)
      - leipert 10mo ago
        Guess I am one of the lucky 10000 today.
  - 10mo ago
seanw444 10mo ago
> Whole thing sounds like an attempt to manufacture an 'Obama beige suit' moment. I'd never heard about that until now. Crazy what gets attention. Who cares what color his suit is?
- TehCorwiz 10mo ago
  Let's be clear. It was never the suit's color they had a problem with. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_tan_suit_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_tan_suit_controve...
  - wredcoll 10mo ago
    Was it his skin color???
    - TehCorwiz 10mo ago
      Nope, he was a Democrat and Republicans and their propaganda outlets like Fox news use the disinfo technique "accusation in a mirror" to discredit complaints about things they plan to do by poisoning discourse early. So they can point back to their bad faith complaints and say "they're copying me" and then the rest of the media just goes "ho hum he said she said." because corporate media doesn't care to actually separate fact from fiction when they can just make boatloads of money from ad views. So they complained about Obama "destroying presidential norms"
      - herewulf 10mo ago
        "Destroying Presidential norms"?! Heh. Wait until Fox News hears about the next guy. Oh, right. It doesn't work that way.
YC3498723948732 10mo ago
To me it feels less like a controversy and more of an indication of Canada becoming more culturally European to spite the Americans.
0_gravitas 10mo ago
I was gonna say, I miss when this is what headlines looked like in my country.
swat535 10mo ago
> Carney is the most popular politician Canada has had in decades? Liberals didn't win majority and it was a close race, I'm not sure where you are getting your data from. TRUMP managed to change the election results but it was close.
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expedition32 10mo ago
Getting in bed with Trump was a bad idea. Seeing the right wing in Canada scramble to appear patriotic while everyone knows the conservatives would start a Vichy government.
nephihaha 10mo ago
Canadian spelling has always been a mixture of UK and US.

eru 10mo ago

> Carney is the most popular politician Canada has had in decades. All thanks to Trump's silly tariffs. There's a silver lining to everything. I hope that the association makes protectionism politically taboo for decades to come.

vkou 10mo ago
> All thanks to Trump's silly tariffs The tariffs were just half of it, the attacks on national sovereignty were the other, and Pierre being his usual shallow and despicable self on the campaign trail were the third. If Carney (or almost anyone but PP, really) were the head of the CPC, they'd have had a majority today. But looking at where the party's going, it's doubtful that the CPC will ever again elect a leader who can both read and write.
palmotea 10mo ago
> I hope that the association makes protectionism politically taboo for decades to come. That is waaaay too black and white. Trump's actions != protectionism, Trump's actions ⊂ protectionism (and have been stupid). Free trade and globalization has failed most of the world in pretty serious ways (though it's been great for the much of the elite, floating on top of big piles of capital). Protectionism is important, it just needs to be conducted in a smarter way (instead of indiscriminately tariffing everyone all the sudden)
- throw0101d 10mo ago
  >> I hope that the association makes protectionism politically taboo for decades to come. > That is waaaay too black and white. We're talking about Trump here: of course it's black and white. > Free trade and globalization has failed most of the world in pretty serious ways (though it's been great for the much of the elite, floating on top of big piles of capital). I don't know: extreme poverty has been driven down quite effectively AFAICT: * https://www.gapminder.org/questions/gms1-3/ https://www.gapminder.org/questions/gms1-3/ * https://www.gapminder.org/data/documentation/epovrate/ https://www.gapminder.org/data/documentation/epovrate/ * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_China Wealth inequality dropped after the Gilded Age and post-WW2 until the 1970s (in the US); nothing said it couldn't have been kept down (say, if Reagan was not elected). There's nothing inherent to free trade and globalization that should lead to it if are willing to redistribution (e.g., through taxation and social programs).
  - eru 10mo ago
    > We're talking about Trump here: of course it's black and white. Trump might portrait things that way, but that doesn't mean we need to analyse anything involving him that way. > Wealth inequality dropped after the Gilded Age and post-WW2 until the 1970s (in the US); [...] Well, if you take on a more global perspective: global inequality absolutely skyrocketed until the 1970s and has only gradually been climbing down since then. Numerically, the biggest contributor was Mao strangling the Chinese economy (and people) until his death, and then Deng Xiaoping took over and relaxed the grip around their throats. But outsourcing and container shipping and lower tariffs helped a lot, too. Not just in relation with China, but for everyone on the globe. I'm sick of portraying the era until the 1970s as some kind of golden age. It was the nadir for most people on the globe in terms of equality, not the zenith.
    - throw0101d 10mo ago
      > Well, if you take on a more global perspective: global inequality absolutely skyrocketed until the 1970s and has only gradually been climbing down since then. Probably because pre-WW2 and globalization most people on the planet were equally poor. > I'm sick of portraying the era until the 1970s as some kind of golden age. It was the nadir for most people on the globe in terms of equality, not the zenith. The 1970s were mostly the zenith of recent technological advancement: certainly personal computing and the Internet came after, but there really hasn't been any major invention. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_and_Fall_of_American_Growth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_and_Fall_of_American_... Post-1970s technology has become more equally distributed (à la Gibson), and that has been through globalization.
- leosanchez 10mo ago
  > Free trade and globalization has failed most of the world in pretty serious ways (though it's been great for the much of the elite, floating on top of big piles of capital). Globalization benefits capital in rich countries and labor in poor countries. As someone who is from a poor and corrupt country, I have seen many people around me come out of poverty due to globalization. I can agree that globalization can be bad for labor in rich countries. Edit: Ironically your comment is also waaaay too black and white.
  - petcat 10mo ago
    > I have seen many people around me come out of poverty due to globalization. This is definitely true and Phil Knight of Nike fame even said that without the opportunity to join his slave workforce in Vietnam, those people would be worse off.
    - leosanchez 10mo ago
      > without the opportunity to join his slave workforce in Vietnam, those people would be worse off. I am not sure if you are being sarcastic here. But without Amazon many people in my country will be worse off, however bad the working conditions maybe.
      - petcat 10mo ago
        Yes it is tongue-in-cheek. I know it's a good proposition for the poor people of that country. But it is pretty widely viewed as exploitative through a wider world lens.
        leosanchez 10mo ago
        > But it is pretty widely viewed as exploitative through a wider world lens. If so, I hope we get exploited even more :)
        shadowgovt 10mo ago
        I remember Planet Money doing a pretty good story on this where they spoke with sweatshop workers in Bangladesh. Relative to the labor wage of employees in the US, they were earning absolute pennies. Relative to the places they came from? They doubled their income and were functionally free from concerns about things like famine and infected drinkable water. Exploitation of labor is a complicated topic (and really, the meta-fight is, as is so often the case, not between nations; it's between labor and capital. Offshoring is just another form of scabbing, but the world is not yet small enough that one should expect a fresh-off-the-farm factory worker who just had their prospects opened up to join a global strike because people in the US want to make $15/hr). (Related: As is so often the case, if you want things better for your folks back home, lift everyone out of poverty and make everyone safe. People are less likley to take "slave-wage" jobs if the alternative is not subsistence and high risk of unpredictable outcome due to localized supply disruption, disease outbreak, or war).
bsimpson 10mo ago
> I hope that the association makes protectionism politically taboo for decades to come. I thought it already was, before Trump. I still can't believe they ended de minimus and tariffed everything.
- eru 10mo ago
  > I thought it already was, before Trump. Not in the US, at least. Every administration since at least Bush jr slapped tariffs on a few things here and there, and mostly kept the previous admin's ad hoc tariffs in place. In more practical places, like Singapore where I live, you'd be right: tariffs are by and large unthinkable.

canadiantim 10mo ago

Trudeau was more popular at his start, but we saw where that led us…

thomassmith65 10mo ago
The press wrote more about Justin Trudeau, but his peak approval rating was lower than Carney's.
- boringg 10mo ago
  Peak approval for Trudeau was over 64% - Carney hasn't hit that high water mark yet. Now peak to trough - I think Trudeau probably had the biggest fall.
brailsafe 10mo ago
Using nearly the exact same rhetoric and party platform, with the exception of austerity measures. Only difference really seems to be that he knows how to pass a budget, but hasn't really offered anything substantial in terms of hope to the working age population

CanuckThrowAway 10mo ago

It was used in the recent budget documents. > Canadian English has been the standard in government communications for decades. But eagle-eyed linguists and editors have spotted British spellings — like "globalisation" and "catalyse" — in documents from the Carney government, including the budget.

mikestorrent 10mo ago
The entire world has already wasted enough calories on caring about this.
thomassmith65 10mo ago
I should clarify. My assumption is that any instances of British spelling in the document(s) were accidental. The petition, otoh, implies that Carney's office has adopted a policy of using British spelling. The 'new policy' explanation is more surprising than mine. It makes a difference. If the conventional explanation is the right one, then this fuss is over a few minor spelling mistakes, as opposed to Carney exercising poor judgment.
jamincan 10mo ago
Apparently it was acceptable to use s or z in words like catalyse or analyze in British English until Microsoft Word came out with a British English spellchecker that picked the s spelling as its standard. Whether this is just myth or fact seems to be a point of controversy.
- gbil 10mo ago
  I learned British English starting in the 80s and using s whereas z was used in American English, together with tre instead of ter (eg. theatre), was a big difference. And I can tell you that MS Word back then was just not there so this sounds like an urban legend but let the British people in HN chime in.
  - nephihaha 10mo ago
    Both -ise and -ize are UK spelling. One is favoured by Oxford and the other by Cambridge.

samdoesnothing 10mo ago

> Carney is the most popular politician Canada has had in decades That's just blatantly untrue?

thomassmith65 10mo ago
I'm basing that on the Prime Ministers, anyhow. Jean Chrétien is the most recent Canadian Prime Minister that I remember a wide spectrum of Canadians liking (and by 2000, not as much). Justin Trudeau appealed many American journalists, but only to some Canadians. If I missed an obvious politician, I will happily concede.
- a3c9 10mo ago
  By gut feeling I’d agree on Chrétien, and there is some polling on this (which I think backs that up). This article compares favourability after first election for PMs going back quite a ways and Carney looks similar but slightly worse off than Trudeau or Harper. https://angusreid.org/prime-minister-mark-carney-first-month-government-priorities-trade-barriers-housing/ https://angusreid.org/prime-minister-mark-carney-first-month...
  - thomassmith65 10mo ago
    Well then, I concede! To stick to my guns would require us to trade competing survey results from different pollsters. That's no fun, and unsatisfying, in any case.
    - boringg 10mo ago
      Yeah but without that your just making stuff up and nobody wants that except you.
      - thomassmith65 10mo ago
        That is reasonable, and why I conceded the point. Unfortunately, I cannot remember where the notion got into my head, and it's a bigger pain then it might seem trawling search results to find current articles with peak approval for both men.

danudey 10mo ago

The opposition party is falling apart because, despite being a Liberal government, the Liberal party is being a better Conservative party than the Conservatives were while the Conservatives have no platform or plan other than 'Liberals bad, lol' (or, somehow, 'Trudeau bad, lol').

thomassmith65 10mo ago
Yes. Additionally, Poilievre's attitude is tone deaf. Canadians are fearful of and anxious about Trump's foreign policy. Most Canadian politicians have been savvy enough to know voters crave a reassuring, united front. Poilievre's combativeness is a bad fit for the current moment.
- flaboonka 10mo ago
  While Poilievre is unpopular, the Conservative party has been essentially neck-and-neck with the Liberals for months. https://338canada.com/polls.htm https://338canada.com/polls.htm
  - swat535 10mo ago
    Conservatives will shift their strategy but parent's claim of Carney being the most popular of PM of all the time is blatantly false. Conservatives have had best showing at a federal election in decades. 41.3% of the popular vote. Over 3.1 million CPC voters in Ontario alone.
YC3498723948732 10mo ago
The first conservative MP to defect said that the caucus has a "frat party atmosphere"[1]. The last MP to defect used to be CIO at Royal Bank of Canada. My suspicion is that the conservatives are being run internally like a boys' club revolving around PP and the Liberals are having no difficulty peeling off MPs who went in expecting a professional workplace. Disaster. 1: https://www.thestar.com/politics/political-opinion/is-pierre-poilievre-running-a-political-party-or-a-frat-house/article_9c74b6d8-3615-4e25-a8ae-a329621803c2.html https://www.thestar.com/politics/political-opinion/is-pierre...

dataviz1000 10mo ago

But, does he use the Oxford comma? This is as stupid as starting a war over cracking the big end or little end of an egg. Or, using whatever book was about that subject as a spelling style guide.

markdown 10mo ago
> But, does he use the Oxford comma? Bro don't even joke about that
PaulDavisThe1st 10mo ago
that's much less important than where he places a full stop when there are parenthetical remarks (such as here).
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goopypoop 10mo ago
you crack the ends of eggs?!
- jjgreen 10mo ago
  When boiled, for example (this a reference to Swift's Gulliver's Travels)
  - mikestew 10mo ago
    And hence big endian and little endian byte orders. (Yeah, but somebody doesn’t know that.)
    - leipert 10mo ago
      Guess I am one of the lucky 10000 today.
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seanw444 10mo ago

> Whole thing sounds like an attempt to manufacture an 'Obama beige suit' moment. I'd never heard about that until now. Crazy what gets attention. Who cares what color his suit is?

TehCorwiz 10mo ago
Let's be clear. It was never the suit's color they had a problem with. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_tan_suit_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_tan_suit_controve...
- wredcoll 10mo ago
  Was it his skin color???
  - TehCorwiz 10mo ago
    Nope, he was a Democrat and Republicans and their propaganda outlets like Fox news use the disinfo technique "accusation in a mirror" to discredit complaints about things they plan to do by poisoning discourse early. So they can point back to their bad faith complaints and say "they're copying me" and then the rest of the media just goes "ho hum he said she said." because corporate media doesn't care to actually separate fact from fiction when they can just make boatloads of money from ad views. So they complained about Obama "destroying presidential norms"
    - herewulf 10mo ago
      "Destroying Presidential norms"?! Heh. Wait until Fox News hears about the next guy. Oh, right. It doesn't work that way.

YC3498723948732 10mo ago

To me it feels less like a controversy and more of an indication of Canada becoming more culturally European to spite the Americans.

0_gravitas 10mo ago

I was gonna say, I miss when this is what headlines looked like in my country.

swat535 10mo ago

> Carney is the most popular politician Canada has had in decades? Liberals didn't win majority and it was a close race, I'm not sure where you are getting your data from. TRUMP managed to change the election results but it was close.

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expedition32 10mo ago

Getting in bed with Trump was a bad idea. Seeing the right wing in Canada scramble to appear patriotic while everyone knows the conservatives would start a Vichy government.

nephihaha 10mo ago

Canadian spelling has always been a mixture of UK and US.