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We? Seems like a personal vendetta from my perspective. I in no way shape or form want to send Americans to Venezuela for the holidays to start an armed conflic
by testbjjl 10mo ago
We? Seems like a personal vendetta from my perspective. I in no way shape or form want to send Americans to Venezuela for the holidays to start an armed conflict.
- jacquesm 10mo agoVenezuelans also don't want you to send Americans.
- vkou 10mo agoI don't think anyone in the world besides the deranged fanbase wants to see this.
- YouAreWRONGtoo 10mo ago[dead]
- pksebben 10mo agoWe really need a decent channel to petition other countries, as the US public. Maybe we could write on a legal pad and hold it up in the rear window as we pass them on the highway.
- komali2 10mo agoOr you could make like the French and actually do something about the death and destruction your nation subjects the rest of the planet to.
- saubeidl 10mo agoIt's funny how the French are portrayed as cowards in American popular culture, when in reality the French would've gotten the guillotines out already while the Americans... cower.
- pksebben 10mo agonot even a joke, we're skipping the 4th and celebrating bastille day this year. Ten days apart and the food and drink are just better.
- ekianjo 10mo agoCertainly not the current French, though.
- wongarsu 10mo agoThey no longer get the guillotines out, but they still protest like no one else. Not always about the right issues, but at least they have the spirit
- saubeidl 10mo agoYou sure? https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/block-everything-protests-sweep-across-france-scores-arrested-2025-09-10/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/block-everything-protes...
- 1718627440 10mo ago> It's funny how the French are portrayed as cowards Are they? Where does that come from?
- komali2 10mo agoIt used to be I guess a slur, "surrender monkeys," because France surrendered during WWII and there was a Nazi-collaborator government established filled with French politicians. It's unfair given the reality and importance of the French resistance, but, that's where it comes from.
- hsiudh 10mo ago~60% of the 8M people that fled Venezuela are incline to support a military intervention, that number goes down to 40% estimated for those still inside, so about more than half the country want external action to get out of the dictatorship. That percentage is for external action, the percentage that voted against the dictator in the stolen election last year was calculated at 76%; so no, is definitely not just the MAGA fan base that want to see something happen.
- SXX 10mo agoExcept last few times it went so well for the countries where "intervention" happen. Also are they in favor to replacing this dictator with another pro-Trump one? Current US president have a weak spot for every dictator and authoritarian leader in the world: El Salvador, Russia, Hungary, etc. Might be not the best candidate to deal with dictators...
- hsiudh 10mo ago> Also are they in favor to replacing this dictator with another pro-Trump one? When your options are being poor, starved to death or dissapeared during the last 25 years, you take any chance for a change
- leesalminen 10mo agoSo Maria machado, the recipient of the Nobel peace prize in 2025 is a would be dictator ?
- SXX 10mo agoWhy do you believe some civil opposition leader will end up im power after foreign military intervention? Usually people who end up in power are ones best at shooting others invluding shooting civil politicians.
- jacquesm 10mo agoWe have some interesting precedents to compare notes with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aung_San_Suu_Kyi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aung_San_Suu_Kyi That did not quite go according to plan either. Definitely not a dictatorship but not exactly clean and the end result is not so far off from where they started. Venezuela could easily end up worse than it is today.
- sigwinch 10mo agoMaría Corina Machado believes this. She won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2025. Attacking Venezuela would still be illegal, but it would achieve her aims.
- leesalminen 10mo agoYou’d be surprised. Last month on a visit to the U.S., 8/10 Uber drivers I had were Venezuelan. I’m a fluent Spanish speaker so I engaged in this very topic. The vast majority of them wanted Maduro out, and the fastest way to that is through U.S. intervention. They were not opposed to this.
- vkou 10mo ago1. This is a bit of a selection bias, since they are in the US, they aren't going to be the ones in the line of fire. It's all upshot for them. 2. Turn back the clock two decades ago, I'm sure plenty of ex-pat Iraqis wanted Saddam out, but half a million dead and a ten-year civil war and also fucking ISIS may have been a bit above what they were willing to pay. If I were living in a country ruled by a deranged autocrat (...), I too would like to see him removed, but that doesn't mean I'd invite war over it. (And the knives-out-nightly-disappearance repression that will inevitably follow.) 3. Given who Trump sucks up to and appoints, I'm sure he'll find his own monster to replace Maduro with. (The US track record with this in the Americas has been incredibly awful, but I've no doubt that he can set a new lowest bar.) He sure as shit won't be putting some lady who won a peace prize in charge. Yes, I suppose you have successfully provided a counter-argument to my point, and I have to concede it - there are people with more skin in the game than the average MAGA who want to stick their former neighbours' hands in the fire, to check if it is hot. Political expats and exiles do tend to favor invasions of their countries more than the people who live in them do, and I've not considered their viewpoints in this.
- krior 10mo agoYou guys get what you voted for, time to take some responsibility.
- lillecarl 10mo agoWithout oil it's hard to keep the monstertrucks rolling down the highways, people have to drop their kids off at school!
- kakacik 10mo agoGotta think about economy and those sweet sweet deals bringing tons of money and power to orange clan err economy and jobs! Its all fault of mexicans after all! Anyway I am sure there can be a new resort/casino or two somewhere there
- mattmaroon 10mo agoWe are a net exporter of oil and have been for nearly two decades. We can keep our monster trucks rolling just fine.
- ericjmorey 10mo agoTrump didn't even get a majority of votes cast. Over 77 million people voted against Trump. About 73 million were not old enough to vote.
- LightBug1 10mo agoYou have to own it at this stage. Even if you didn't vote for it. Particularly as that tangerine is in for a second innings. All the world wants to hear is what you're doing to fight the situation, not that it's not your fault. Thanks