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The initial TikTok ban bill was introduced in January 25, 2023, before the Oct 7 attacks. I don't think we can trust TikTok to be a defender of global human ri

The initial TikTok ban bill was introduced in January 25, 2023, before the Oct 7 attacks. I don't think we can trust TikTok to be a defender of global human rights. China doesn't have a great record on this, with Muslim minorities in particular. The furor over Uyghurs in China has died down due to China's strong international influence but that doesn't mean China is respecting Uyghurs human rights.

netsharc 10mo ago
I don't know if TikTok is algorithmically pushing anti-Israel content/genocide-witnessing content. Although if you told me Zuck and Musk were suppressing genocide-witnessing content I'd buy it. Of course it's opportunistic of China to criticize the West's supply of bombs to drop on civilians that enable said genocide. But how can the West claim to be upholding the values that say "Uyghur genocide is wrong" while being quiet about the Gazan genocide... Feel free to argue about semantics and meaning of the G word instead of addressing the death of the rules-based International order.
- Seattle3503 10mo ago
  The west is not quiet about Gaza by any measure. I live in the west and hear about it a lot. You practically can't escape reports. At this point I'd say it reflects your media diet if you aren't hearing about it. In 2023 Azerbaijan ethnically cleansed Nagorno-Karabakh of ethnic Armenians[1]. IMO that is a better example of human rights violations that the west has been silent about. But that happened at the end of September 2023, and folks were more interested in talking about IP. But my point is you will not hear about Uyghurs on TikTok, and that is a part of why a Chinese controlled media company should not be trusted. To say that you don't have to accept anything about the US or its media companies. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Nagorno-Karabakh_Armenians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Nagorno-Karabakh_...
  - netsharc 10mo ago
    > The west is not quiet Ah, a semantic misunderstanding. By "The West" I mean the governments. Biden had red lines that Netanyahu walked all over. Germany still have their 80 years old guilt and this got exploited by Netanyahu. Etc, etc. There are pockets of protests by governments, but on the whole the Western bureaucracy kept supporting the genocide...
    - Seattle3503 10mo ago
      That might matter more if the the proposal was to hand over TikTok to the US government, but that's not what people are asking. People are asking for media not controlled by the CCP.
      - netsharc 10mo ago
        Maybe TikTok is controlled by people who are close to CCP leadership... oh that's bad, so now the US government wants to force its sale so it's controlled by people like Larry Ellison, known to be close to Trump. Wowwww, what a world of difference. /S Funny you keep picking on nits as if these assholes aren't 2 sides of the same coin. At least admit that you prefer your fascism Trump-branded, at least the alphabet is still legible compared to Chinese Communist fascism.
        tehjoker 10mo ago
        China is not fascist, communism ands fascism are opposed concepts and mortal enemies. Please do some reading.
MPSFounder 10mo ago
What does China have to do with Israel? Israel killed so many children in Ghaza. And Journalists. It is the greatest enemy of the west, for its values (stealing land, no respect for human life or property) is alien to what Voltaire described as western traits (and voltaire by the way regarded both China and Jews in Europe as antithetical to the west, though more out of sinophobia and antisemitism). No impartial observer can look at Israel and see a western nation. I do not know of any country (Russia and Iran included) who has starved a population and committed rape while defending it. Vile people.

netsharc 10mo ago

I don't know if TikTok is algorithmically pushing anti-Israel content/genocide-witnessing content. Although if you told me Zuck and Musk were suppressing genocide-witnessing content I'd buy it. Of course it's opportunistic of China to criticize the West's supply of bombs to drop on civilians that enable said genocide. But how can the West claim to be upholding the values that say "Uyghur genocide is wrong" while being quiet about the Gazan genocide... Feel free to argue about semantics and meaning of the G word instead of addressing the death of the rules-based International order.

Seattle3503 10mo ago
The west is not quiet about Gaza by any measure. I live in the west and hear about it a lot. You practically can't escape reports. At this point I'd say it reflects your media diet if you aren't hearing about it. In 2023 Azerbaijan ethnically cleansed Nagorno-Karabakh of ethnic Armenians[1]. IMO that is a better example of human rights violations that the west has been silent about. But that happened at the end of September 2023, and folks were more interested in talking about IP. But my point is you will not hear about Uyghurs on TikTok, and that is a part of why a Chinese controlled media company should not be trusted. To say that you don't have to accept anything about the US or its media companies. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Nagorno-Karabakh_Armenians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Nagorno-Karabakh_...
- netsharc 10mo ago
  > The west is not quiet Ah, a semantic misunderstanding. By "The West" I mean the governments. Biden had red lines that Netanyahu walked all over. Germany still have their 80 years old guilt and this got exploited by Netanyahu. Etc, etc. There are pockets of protests by governments, but on the whole the Western bureaucracy kept supporting the genocide...
  - Seattle3503 10mo ago
    That might matter more if the the proposal was to hand over TikTok to the US government, but that's not what people are asking. People are asking for media not controlled by the CCP.
    - netsharc 10mo ago
      Maybe TikTok is controlled by people who are close to CCP leadership... oh that's bad, so now the US government wants to force its sale so it's controlled by people like Larry Ellison, known to be close to Trump. Wowwww, what a world of difference. /S Funny you keep picking on nits as if these assholes aren't 2 sides of the same coin. At least admit that you prefer your fascism Trump-branded, at least the alphabet is still legible compared to Chinese Communist fascism.
      - tehjoker 10mo ago
        China is not fascist, communism ands fascism are opposed concepts and mortal enemies. Please do some reading.

MPSFounder 10mo ago

What does China have to do with Israel? Israel killed so many children in Ghaza. And Journalists. It is the greatest enemy of the west, for its values (stealing land, no respect for human life or property) is alien to what Voltaire described as western traits (and voltaire by the way regarded both China and Jews in Europe as antithetical to the west, though more out of sinophobia and antisemitism). No impartial observer can look at Israel and see a western nation. I do not know of any country (Russia and Iran included) who has starved a population and committed rape while defending it. Vile people.