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I'm curious why a Canadian is so hell bent on causing more division in America by embedding his political views in an otherwise decent vulnerability analysis.

I'm curious why a Canadian is so hell bent on causing more division in America by embedding his political views in an otherwise decent vulnerability analysis. He makes it sound he's on some sort of a mission...like the users of the messaging app ( which I have never heard of before until today ) should face some sort of backlash for their own political views opposite of him....which is amusing to say the least as Canadians seem to have permanently marked conservatives, not just in their own country but all over the world as "MAGA". also I'd appreciate if we can keep politics out which just detracts focus on technical end of things

verdverm 10mo ago
> I'd appreciate if we can keep politics out This is an app specifically built for a specific political group, a group that is wreaking havoc on our science and technology. "MAGA" has become the go-to term for a global movement, because there is a global alt-right movement to undo progress and dominate others into their world view. It's going to be a part of HN like it was the first go around. Being apolitical is how political groups like this come to power.
- agentifysh 10mo ago
  same argument can be made for bluesky or reddit pretty much any platform you slap political labels on and this only increases division and radicalizes people on the fringes and desperate for a sense of belonging to as surrogacy for loneliness
  - verdverm 10mo ago
    Do you want the alt-right to take over? If your answer is no, then understand we need to talk about it all the time to fight back. They want us to _not talk_ about what they are doing so we _remain ignorant of each other_ think about what they are doing, so they can get away with more
    - agentifysh 10mo ago
      No but do you want the alt-left to take over? I'm for neither side and im tired of the constant ideological battles
      - verdverm 10mo ago
        We need to talk about both of them, not neither You want constant ideological battles to end, and the answer is... do nothing? They have the megaphone. If you want to take it away, we have to talk to each other about it so they start marginalizing their posts and opinions. MAGA is the poster child for the Overton shift, it's not going back any amount without effort
      - groby_b 10mo ago
        You'll need to understand that <blatantly political actor does stupid thing> is a criticism of the actor's stupidity, not the political faction. If it consistently happens more often for any given political faction, then it's still not an ideological statement, just a realization that not every political direction has an equal commitment to facts and reality. So, mostly, I'd like the alt-stupids to not take over.
      - whoknowsidont 10mo ago
        As far as everyone on the planet is aware, the alt-left doesn't want to murder people.

verdverm 10mo ago

> I'd appreciate if we can keep politics out This is an app specifically built for a specific political group, a group that is wreaking havoc on our science and technology. "MAGA" has become the go-to term for a global movement, because there is a global alt-right movement to undo progress and dominate others into their world view. It's going to be a part of HN like it was the first go around. Being apolitical is how political groups like this come to power.

agentifysh 10mo ago
same argument can be made for bluesky or reddit pretty much any platform you slap political labels on and this only increases division and radicalizes people on the fringes and desperate for a sense of belonging to as surrogacy for loneliness
- verdverm 10mo ago
  Do you want the alt-right to take over? If your answer is no, then understand we need to talk about it all the time to fight back. They want us to _not talk_ about what they are doing so we _remain ignorant of each other_ think about what they are doing, so they can get away with more
  - agentifysh 10mo ago
    No but do you want the alt-left to take over? I'm for neither side and im tired of the constant ideological battles
    - verdverm 10mo ago
      We need to talk about both of them, not neither You want constant ideological battles to end, and the answer is... do nothing? They have the megaphone. If you want to take it away, we have to talk to each other about it so they start marginalizing their posts and opinions. MAGA is the poster child for the Overton shift, it's not going back any amount without effort
    - groby_b 10mo ago
      You'll need to understand that <blatantly political actor does stupid thing> is a criticism of the actor's stupidity, not the political faction. If it consistently happens more often for any given political faction, then it's still not an ideological statement, just a realization that not every political direction has an equal commitment to facts and reality. So, mostly, I'd like the alt-stupids to not take over.
    - whoknowsidont 10mo ago
      As far as everyone on the planet is aware, the alt-left doesn't want to murder people.