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> "City-upon-a-hill" is marketing and has never been grounded in fact. Except for Germany 1945, Eastern Europe 1989, South Korea, etc. pp.
by nkmnz 11mo ago
> "City-upon-a-hill" is marketing and has never been grounded in fact.
Except for Germany 1945, Eastern Europe 1989, South Korea, etc. pp.
- ethbr1 11mo agoKuwait 1991. Iraq NFZ 1992-2003. Haiti 1994. Ex-SFR Yugoslavia 1995. Again in 1999. America has had a lot of less-than-ethical military adventurism, but it's also incorrect to say every instance of it was self-serving.
- nkmnz 11mo agoThe problem with Ex-SFR Yugoslavia 1995/99 wasn't too much international/western involvement, but too little.
- LargoLasskhyfv 11mo agoOh! Really? https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/how-bushs-grandfather-helped-hitlers-rise-to-power https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/how-bushs-grandfa... What happend in SK at the times was an authoritarian, maybe even police state. Not especially 'democratic'. 1989? Not that hard when 'mother russia' is collapsing, and occupied otherwise. For some decades, at least.
- nkmnz 11mo agoThe fact you call it "mother" Russia lets me hope you use another word when referring to your own mother.
- nkmnz 11mo ago> Oh! Really? https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/how-bushs-grandfather-helped-hitlers-rise-to-power https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/how-bushs-grandfa... From the article: "(...) his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act" – so... yeah, exactly. Germany 1945.
- spopejoy 11mo ago> Germany 1945 Huh? Soviet Union did the heavy lifting there
- rasz 11mo agoYou could say soviets did all the WW2 heavy lifting, starting with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama_tank_school https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama_tank_school https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipetsk_fighter-pilot_school https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipetsk_fighter-pilot_school https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomka_gas_test_site https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomka_gas_test_site and and culminating in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pac...
- nkmnz 11mo agolol, not really. First of all, the kind of "heavy lifting" the Soviet Union did was agreeing with Nazi Germany to partition Poland and subsequently raiding it together from both sides (Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact) – never forget they were allies until Hitler turned on them. The "heave lifting" you refer to was mostly paid for and organized by the Lend-Lease Act. There would have been no eastern front without it.