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"Most of it is a lie that they tell their own citizens, though, as America and the West only want democracy and promote it for their own ends. They destroy any
by xbmcuser 10mo ago
"Most of it is a lie that they tell their own citizens, though, as America and the West only want democracy and promote it for their own ends. They destroy any democracy that might not align with their worldview or serve their interests.
The current administration is overtly doing what was previously done covertly. Dictators are acceptable as long as it is politically convenient. One of the most recent cases is Pakistan, where the army has taken over, and EU and Commonwealth election monitors did not issue even election monitor report even after two years. Instead, they have facilitated the murder and killing of Pakistani civilians. But maybe Pakistanis are brown-skinned, so for them, democracy is not allowed.
Pakistan should be under sanctions, but it is not, as it is providing ammunition for Ukraine. That is the biggest problem of the West: their hypocrisy. They are calling for democracy in Hong Kong, as that serves their own agendas, but will say nothing about an apartheid state like Israel."
"Imran Khan, the former prime minister, has been jailed without trial for the last two-plus years and has been kept in solitary confinement for months out of those. How many newspapers mention it in the West or make it a news topic? But this Hong Kong (HK) Jimmy Lai conviction will be the headlines in most of the Western media a clear example of propaganda to rile up the population against China and socialism.
This is why I laugh when people here on Hacker News mention China's control of media and its propaganda, when the Western media is no better than them. At least many Chinese citizens know they are being propagandized against and can filter it out."
- xyzal 10mo agoCan you imagine a Chinese person writing like you just did on Weibo? Democracy/liberalism/civil liberties etc. isn't 100% or not at all.
- benmmurphy 10mo agoThat reminds me of an old cold war joke. In China you are free to criticise western governments on Weibo. What is the problem?
- snapcaster 10mo agoThis feels very dismissive. The comment you responded is about the very real killing of a lot of people and your response is "at least we can talk about it?" Being free to talk about the horrible things happening doesn't appear to stop them from happening so what exactly is your point here?
- buellerbueller 10mo agoThe human condition is hypocrisy. The weak want fairness. The powerful want their power unbridled. Only anomalous humans can be powerful without abusing that power.
- echelon_musk 10mo agoWhy are your comments in double quotes?
- bryanlarsen 10mo ago> when the Western media is no better than them better is a continuum across many dimensions. Therefore when you say "no better than" you're saying "worse than". I'm not saying Western media is good, but it's really hard to argue that it's worse than the Chinese media, given the headline story above and our freedom to discuss it here and elsewhere. Both can be bad, but one is more bad than the other.
- calf 10mo agoSure but this was prompted by the absurdly self-congratulatory "city on a hill" comment which shows how out of touch the West is with critical thought from the global south.
- bryanlarsen 10mo agoYou're misreading the original comment. As originally used, the city on a hill comment was about aspirations, not achievements. IOW, the US was aspiring to be the city on the hill, not that it was. And then JumpCrissCross's comment says that the US has stopped even aspiring to be the city on the hill. It's a comment saying the US has fallen. How is that absurdly self-congratulatory?