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I also would have preferred to keep it in the country, but the fact is that Amazon does more harm and is a larger threat to Americans and your children than Chi
by coldpie 10mo ago
I also would have preferred to keep it in the country, but the fact is that Amazon does more harm and is a larger threat to Americans and your children than China is. Hence "Of those two choices... I pick China."
I would love for there to have been more than those two options, but this is where we ended up after decades of not enforcing anti-trust law, thanks in no small part to Amazon.
- rjp0008 10mo agoI would definitely argue the opposite, that China is the larger threat. They want control of Taiwan and are building way more capable hardware than Russia has.
- coldpie 10mo agoSounds bad man. Meanwhile, Amazon and its executives are union-busting to keep worker rights minimal, running a nation-wide law enforcement surveillance network, supporting Republican politicians and all of their anti-American policies and practices, lobbying to oppose anti-trust enforcement to keep hold of their illegal market positions and keep our economy weak, and they own one of the nation's largest newspapers specifically so they can control the narrative over their own actions. And that's all happening right here, in the US, influencing our laws and our media, right now today, not in some theoretical future. So yeah in terms of entities that are actually doing real harm to Americans, Amazon beats China no question.
- margalabargala 10mo agoThere are threats from without and threats from within. China isn't going to physically invade the US. They want to take our place as the world's cultural leader and relegate the US to approximately the current state of the UK. Companies like Amazon want to increase the wealth of the owners at any cost including domestic political capture. They would see the country being run by oligarchs like Russia. Would you rather live in the UK or Russia?
- GenerWork 10mo ago>Amazon does more harm and is a larger threat to Americans and your children than China is Yeah, I'm going to need some examples as to how Amazon is worse than China.
- coldpie 10mo agoSee downthread comment[1], and please keep in mind the context of this conversation is specifically, "Amazon does more harm and is a larger threat to Americans than China is". [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46277647 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46277647
- stogot 10mo agoChinese doctrine explicitly has labeled America as the enemy for 10-20 years, with a goal of taking a democracy by force (after crushing dissent in HK and taking it over earlier than promised), and steals the West’s IP, and manipulates American businesses, and is actively committing a genocide for the past decade.
- coldpie 10mo agoThat's all pretty hand wavey and abstract, not very convincing (for example, I'm pretty sure China is not committing a genocide in the US, and Western IP law is arguably not worth much respect anyway). I'm not saying China is without problems, I'm just saying they're less harmful to Americans than Amazon is.