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I got shingles-ish rash after sitting in an outdoor jacuzzi in Salinas, California. Visited the urgent care and the Standard-trained doctor of immigrant farm la

I got shingles-ish rash after sitting in an outdoor jacuzzi in Salinas, California. Visited the urgent care and the Standard-trained doctor of immigrant farm laborers said it was related to the pesticides. Said he lost both parents in their 40s and suspects it was the indiscriminate spraying from the air in the 70/80/90s. Eye-opening and thought-provoking.

bloomingeek 10mo ago
<indiscriminate spraying from the air> As a city dweller, I used to use Roundup along my fence line. Then I read an article in a newspaper about spraying chemicals when there is a breeze. So I read the label on the Roundup bottle and it said absolutely do not spray in any windy conditions. Next I polled my coworkers about this and they all said they just stay upwind! The bottle label also said Roundup is active for up to 30 days, then I thought about my dogs. I no longer use any chemical for lawn care. As to the plight of the farmers: I wonder if most of them bothered to used proper personal protection gear when spraying? Even if they had enclosed cabs, the chemical would still coat the tractor and tank surfaces which can be rubbed against at any time.
- stef25 10mo ago
  My dad used Roundup extensively in the garden in the 80s and 90s. Both he and a gardener he hired to help died from dementia. The scientist in me wants to see definitive proof from validated studies.
  - bloomingeek 10mo ago
    Monsanto has muddied the waters on many studies and was caught. They are currently involved in many lawsuits and have lost most.
- phantasmish 10mo ago
  In many parts of the country whole counties smell of pesticide for a few days every year (and pig-shit another few days, but that’s a different issue) I’ve lived in some of them, and my mom did a lot of by-hand weed-killer spraying (big plastic refillable jug with sprayer hose & wand) along a mile-plus of fence line, for years. Her generation didn’t really do PPE, so no respirator. Died relatively young of a Parkinson’s-adjacent dementia a little while back. No history of any of that in the family. Hm.
- buildsjets 10mo ago
  When the stories about Roundup started floating around, I switched to 30% strength vinegar with a squirt of dish soap in it. It kills weeds and undesired plants off just as quickly and effectively as Roundup did, but obviously it does not prevent new seeds from sprouting. It is indiscriminate, whereas Roundup selectively targets broad-leafed plants, so you want to avoid getting it on grass. I use a big tarp to mask off the grass if I am using it heavily along the lawn borders. It's very effective for things like borders, gravel paths, stuff like that. Also, instead of smelling like a chemical factory, your yard will smell like salad dressing for a day or so.
- downrightmike 10mo ago
  And get in in the air intakes for the AC, or even if they closed it off to only recycle internal air, they brought chemical in with them
  - bloomingeek 10mo ago
    Most modern home AC systems have, as a rule of thumb, ten percent fresh air intake. This varies, depending on the home size and state and local codes. On my home the fresh air vent is high up in my attic, which should protect me from over spraying of chemicals. However, if you have a window unit or an on ground system this will affect your exposure. In an effort to save money, some will close their fresh air vent, this is not recommended because of the lack of air trade out in the system.
- vel0city 10mo ago
  > So I read the label on the Roundup bottle Something that is supposed to be done to legally use it properly under FIFRA. There's a reason why it says in big letters READ ENTIRE LABEL BEFORE USE. Its nuts to me there's so many people out there buying crazy chemicals and just #yolo'ing it all over the place.
diggyhole 10mo ago
The weird thing about this sort of stuff is I believe genetics play a role. My father in law has worked in ag his whole life. Specifically spraying fertilizer and pesticides. He is obese and has a terrible diet. One would think he is riddle with cancer and died at 50. He retired at 67 and is overall somewhat healthy for someone who is 300 lbs. Life is weird.

bloomingeek 10mo ago

<indiscriminate spraying from the air> As a city dweller, I used to use Roundup along my fence line. Then I read an article in a newspaper about spraying chemicals when there is a breeze. So I read the label on the Roundup bottle and it said absolutely do not spray in any windy conditions. Next I polled my coworkers about this and they all said they just stay upwind! The bottle label also said Roundup is active for up to 30 days, then I thought about my dogs. I no longer use any chemical for lawn care. As to the plight of the farmers: I wonder if most of them bothered to used proper personal protection gear when spraying? Even if they had enclosed cabs, the chemical would still coat the tractor and tank surfaces which can be rubbed against at any time.

stef25 10mo ago
My dad used Roundup extensively in the garden in the 80s and 90s. Both he and a gardener he hired to help died from dementia. The scientist in me wants to see definitive proof from validated studies.
- bloomingeek 10mo ago
  Monsanto has muddied the waters on many studies and was caught. They are currently involved in many lawsuits and have lost most.
phantasmish 10mo ago
In many parts of the country whole counties smell of pesticide for a few days every year (and pig-shit another few days, but that’s a different issue) I’ve lived in some of them, and my mom did a lot of by-hand weed-killer spraying (big plastic refillable jug with sprayer hose & wand) along a mile-plus of fence line, for years. Her generation didn’t really do PPE, so no respirator. Died relatively young of a Parkinson’s-adjacent dementia a little while back. No history of any of that in the family. Hm.
buildsjets 10mo ago
When the stories about Roundup started floating around, I switched to 30% strength vinegar with a squirt of dish soap in it. It kills weeds and undesired plants off just as quickly and effectively as Roundup did, but obviously it does not prevent new seeds from sprouting. It is indiscriminate, whereas Roundup selectively targets broad-leafed plants, so you want to avoid getting it on grass. I use a big tarp to mask off the grass if I am using it heavily along the lawn borders. It's very effective for things like borders, gravel paths, stuff like that. Also, instead of smelling like a chemical factory, your yard will smell like salad dressing for a day or so.
downrightmike 10mo ago
And get in in the air intakes for the AC, or even if they closed it off to only recycle internal air, they brought chemical in with them
- bloomingeek 10mo ago
  Most modern home AC systems have, as a rule of thumb, ten percent fresh air intake. This varies, depending on the home size and state and local codes. On my home the fresh air vent is high up in my attic, which should protect me from over spraying of chemicals. However, if you have a window unit or an on ground system this will affect your exposure. In an effort to save money, some will close their fresh air vent, this is not recommended because of the lack of air trade out in the system.
vel0city 10mo ago
> So I read the label on the Roundup bottle Something that is supposed to be done to legally use it properly under FIFRA. There's a reason why it says in big letters READ ENTIRE LABEL BEFORE USE. Its nuts to me there's so many people out there buying crazy chemicals and just #yolo'ing it all over the place.

diggyhole 10mo ago

The weird thing about this sort of stuff is I believe genetics play a role. My father in law has worked in ag his whole life. Specifically spraying fertilizer and pesticides. He is obese and has a terrible diet. One would think he is riddle with cancer and died at 50. He retired at 67 and is overall somewhat healthy for someone who is 300 lbs. Life is weird.