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I’m curious about this too. I’d worry about a local burglar having this information, but what can a Chinese tech company do with this data that I should be conc

I’m curious about this too. I’d worry about a local burglar having this information, but what can a Chinese tech company do with this data that I should be concerned about?

sandworm101 10mo ago
An employee of that company sells footage of you to a scam center. They then blackmail you.
- mystraline 10mo ago
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  - user_7832 10mo ago
    > The Chinese aren't the ones running massive scam orgs backed by their government. They're bust teaching up and innovating on a massive scale. The scammers would be in India, backed by their government. That's patently false. The "Indian Govt" isn't behind any scams any more than a random Sheriff abusing his power is a spokesperson for the White House - and that's generously assuming there are politicians with vested interests behind these, which I haven't seen anything to suggest.
  - goobatrooba 10mo ago
    Unfortunately you are wrong. Most scam centres are Chinese owned, though they are usually based in other countries, e.g. Myanmar or Cambodia. There were various in depth investigations by media and law enforcement across countries, here is a US source https://www.uscc.gov/research/chinas-exploitation-scam-centers-southeast-asia https://www.uscc.gov/research/chinas-exploitation-scam-cente... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/27/world/asia/scam-centers-myanmar-thailand-china.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/27/world/asia/scam-centers-m... https://apnews.com/article/asian-scam-operations-cybercime-fraud-united-nations-494b1832f330d6a9690b083411809f93 https://apnews.com/article/asian-scam-operations-cybercime-f... German source https://www.dw.com/en/why-is-china-clamping-down-on-scammers-in-southeast-asia/a-71456569 https://www.dw.com/en/why-is-china-clamping-down-on-scammers... ... Etc
actionfromafar 10mo ago
First, just the evergrowing tracking of everything, it's just unwholesome in general. Second, why assume a random Chinese tech company will manage to keep this information to themselves? I wouldn't exactly bet against some terabytes of videos appear on some torrent indexer. Now, combine with modern AI tools for sifting for what you are interested in, and it might hit closer to home for someone.
- gambiting 10mo ago
  >>Second, why assume a random Chinese tech company will manage to keep this information to themselves? I never assumed American companies kept this data to themselves so nothing has changed in that regard.
  - palata 10mo ago
    What I don't get is why people buy robots that carry microphones, lidars and cameras AND connect to the Internet. I don't really care if the camera is American or Chinese, I just don't want a camera/mic in my home that I don't control. And yeah, the smartphone counts but it's a lot harder not to have one.
__MatrixMan__ 10mo ago
Assuming an efficient market it'll eventually be sold to a local burglar. Also, I imagine ICE might be interested in a list of homes where something besides English was spoken. Also there are those email scams that claim to have video of you doing something embarrassing, but usually don't. Given the trajectory of AI, their claims might start being true.

I’m curious about this too. I’d worry about a local burglar having this information, but what can a Chinese tech company do with this data that I should be concerned about?

sandworm101 10mo ago

An employee of that company sells footage of you to a scam center. They then blackmail you.

mystraline 10mo ago
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- user_7832 10mo ago
  > The Chinese aren't the ones running massive scam orgs backed by their government. They're bust teaching up and innovating on a massive scale. The scammers would be in India, backed by their government. That's patently false. The "Indian Govt" isn't behind any scams any more than a random Sheriff abusing his power is a spokesperson for the White House - and that's generously assuming there are politicians with vested interests behind these, which I haven't seen anything to suggest.
- goobatrooba 10mo ago
  Unfortunately you are wrong. Most scam centres are Chinese owned, though they are usually based in other countries, e.g. Myanmar or Cambodia. There were various in depth investigations by media and law enforcement across countries, here is a US source https://www.uscc.gov/research/chinas-exploitation-scam-centers-southeast-asia https://www.uscc.gov/research/chinas-exploitation-scam-cente... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/27/world/asia/scam-centers-myanmar-thailand-china.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/27/world/asia/scam-centers-m... https://apnews.com/article/asian-scam-operations-cybercime-fraud-united-nations-494b1832f330d6a9690b083411809f93 https://apnews.com/article/asian-scam-operations-cybercime-f... German source https://www.dw.com/en/why-is-china-clamping-down-on-scammers-in-southeast-asia/a-71456569 https://www.dw.com/en/why-is-china-clamping-down-on-scammers... ... Etc

actionfromafar 10mo ago

First, just the evergrowing tracking of everything, it's just unwholesome in general. Second, why assume a random Chinese tech company will manage to keep this information to themselves? I wouldn't exactly bet against some terabytes of videos appear on some torrent indexer. Now, combine with modern AI tools for sifting for what you are interested in, and it might hit closer to home for someone.

gambiting 10mo ago
>>Second, why assume a random Chinese tech company will manage to keep this information to themselves? I never assumed American companies kept this data to themselves so nothing has changed in that regard.
- palata 10mo ago
  What I don't get is why people buy robots that carry microphones, lidars and cameras AND connect to the Internet. I don't really care if the camera is American or Chinese, I just don't want a camera/mic in my home that I don't control. And yeah, the smartphone counts but it's a lot harder not to have one.

__MatrixMan__ 10mo ago

Assuming an efficient market it'll eventually be sold to a local burglar. Also, I imagine ICE might be interested in a list of homes where something besides English was spoken. Also there are those email scams that claim to have video of you doing something embarrassing, but usually don't. Given the trajectory of AI, their claims might start being true.