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I never use Arduino or Arduino IDE anyway; it's incredibly laggy for me, and I hate having these things in the cloud. I mainly use Pico and VS Code now.

platevoltage 10mo ago
Yeah their IDE is basically unusable.
- 1718627440 10mo ago
  And yet that is the only thing, that they actually produce. Everything is else is from someone else.
  - platevoltage 10mo ago
    I am endlessly thankful for the Arduino project as it was one of the major gateways to programming for me, but at the same time, I bought an Arduino R4 and have barely even used it. ESP32, Raspberry Pi, and even 8 bit Atmel chips get way more attention from me. I'm guessing that Renesas chip on the R4 won't be getting too much attention anymore.
    - 1718627440 10mo ago
      And if you poke a bit around, not even that was really of their own making: http://arduinohistory.github.io/ http://arduinohistory.github.io/ . There also has been some discussion about that here on HN, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46009209 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46009209, which was less than a month ago.
jojobas 10mo ago
Setting up the toolchain that's not Arduino IDE is a prohibitively high bar for a school child that wants to blink leds.
- schappim 10mo ago
  There is a version of Thonny[1] designed for use with the Pico that is great for education. Raspberry Pi have some good resources on getting started[2]. If your target audience is school kids, you really can't go past the micro:bit and Makecode[3]. 1. https://thonny.org https://thonny.org 2. https://projects.raspberrypi.org/en/projects/getting-started-with-the-pico/2 https://projects.raspberrypi.org/en/projects/getting-started... 3. https://makecode.microbit.org https://makecode.microbit.org
  - jaustin 10mo ago
    The Micro:bit Educational Foundation also make a web-based Python Editor at https://python.microbit.org https://python.microbit.org which is designed to be a supportive introduction to text-based coding and physical computing with no installation, friendly error messages and device simulation

platevoltage 10mo ago

Yeah their IDE is basically unusable.

1718627440 10mo ago
And yet that is the only thing, that they actually produce. Everything is else is from someone else.
- platevoltage 10mo ago
  I am endlessly thankful for the Arduino project as it was one of the major gateways to programming for me, but at the same time, I bought an Arduino R4 and have barely even used it. ESP32, Raspberry Pi, and even 8 bit Atmel chips get way more attention from me. I'm guessing that Renesas chip on the R4 won't be getting too much attention anymore.
  - 1718627440 10mo ago
    And if you poke a bit around, not even that was really of their own making: http://arduinohistory.github.io/ http://arduinohistory.github.io/ . There also has been some discussion about that here on HN, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46009209 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46009209, which was less than a month ago.

jojobas 10mo ago

Setting up the toolchain that's not Arduino IDE is a prohibitively high bar for a school child that wants to blink leds.

schappim 10mo ago
There is a version of Thonny[1] designed for use with the Pico that is great for education. Raspberry Pi have some good resources on getting started[2]. If your target audience is school kids, you really can't go past the micro:bit and Makecode[3]. 1. https://thonny.org https://thonny.org 2. https://projects.raspberrypi.org/en/projects/getting-started-with-the-pico/2 https://projects.raspberrypi.org/en/projects/getting-started... 3. https://makecode.microbit.org https://makecode.microbit.org
- jaustin 10mo ago
  The Micro:bit Educational Foundation also make a web-based Python Editor at https://python.microbit.org https://python.microbit.org which is designed to be a supportive introduction to text-based coding and physical computing with no installation, friendly error messages and device simulation