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Seems fine. There's a Qualcomm SaaS platform you don't need that they have the boilerplate no-hacking clause on. And Arduinos are the same as always. Considerin

by arjie 11mo ago

Seems fine. There's a Qualcomm SaaS platform you don't need that they have the boilerplate no-hacking clause on. And Arduinos are the same as always. Considering the EFF and Arduino positions in favour, both of whom have done a lot for open-source stuff, I really can't be bothered that Adafruit is trying to drum up some marketing content.

vasco 11mo ago
Agree completely and I was writing arduino libraries almost 20 years ago
- arjie 11mo ago
  My first Arduino was something like 15 years ago as well, a Duemilanove. I suspect my parents still have it. I'm not saying nothing can change over time, but there's always one controversy after another online these days in software communities and I think rather than trust the latest mob I'm going to trust the guy who's been serving me well for more than a decade. These openness purity tests are really not for me.
  - vasco 11mo ago
    Same story on this side and same feelings. It doesn't matter to the mob, the perception is all. Who cares that there's a website which is not open source, you don't buy an arduino for the website. You buy it because it's cheap and easy to use. Otherwise everyone would still be flashing atmel 8s
  - jack_tripper 11mo ago
    >there's always one controversy after another online these days in software communities and I think rather than trust the latest mob I'm going to trust the guy who's been serving me well for more than a decade. These openness purity tests are really not for me. Thanks you! Sad that HN gets ideologically captured in the same mob behavior instead of thinking logically and practically.
    - nottorp 11mo ago
      The logical thinking is: are they going to make me dependent on some cloud service to develop for Arduino? Don't know what Adafruit has a problem with, but the above is my problem.
      - vasco 11mo ago
        They can't do that. Maybe they can launch new versions later where they lock it down, but then we will just use something else.
        1718627440 11mo ago
        The latter is what this discussion is about. Will future Arduino released things still be usable for our means, or do we need to ditch them.
        nottorp 11mo ago
        Yep, it's fine to not consider future versions when you do say hobby projects, but I worked on a commercial Arduino based project that's supposed to run on top of poles on solar. For that I very much care if they plan to make it cloud dependent... and I don't assume sanity on part of management.
        1718627440 11mo ago
        > I worked on a commercial Arduino based project Me too.
        jack_tripper 11mo ago
        What product?
        deleted 11mo ago
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healsdata 11mo ago
> Adafruit is trying to drum up some marketing content This was evident to me when their original post "yada yada yada'd" over the details to make things in the agreement sound sinister.

by arjie 11mo ago

vasco 11mo ago

Agree completely and I was writing arduino libraries almost 20 years ago

arjie 11mo ago
My first Arduino was something like 15 years ago as well, a Duemilanove. I suspect my parents still have it. I'm not saying nothing can change over time, but there's always one controversy after another online these days in software communities and I think rather than trust the latest mob I'm going to trust the guy who's been serving me well for more than a decade. These openness purity tests are really not for me.
- vasco 11mo ago
  Same story on this side and same feelings. It doesn't matter to the mob, the perception is all. Who cares that there's a website which is not open source, you don't buy an arduino for the website. You buy it because it's cheap and easy to use. Otherwise everyone would still be flashing atmel 8s
- jack_tripper 11mo ago
  >there's always one controversy after another online these days in software communities and I think rather than trust the latest mob I'm going to trust the guy who's been serving me well for more than a decade. These openness purity tests are really not for me. Thanks you! Sad that HN gets ideologically captured in the same mob behavior instead of thinking logically and practically.
  - nottorp 11mo ago
    The logical thinking is: are they going to make me dependent on some cloud service to develop for Arduino? Don't know what Adafruit has a problem with, but the above is my problem.
    - vasco 11mo ago
      They can't do that. Maybe they can launch new versions later where they lock it down, but then we will just use something else.
      - 1718627440 11mo ago
        The latter is what this discussion is about. Will future Arduino released things still be usable for our means, or do we need to ditch them.
        nottorp 11mo ago
        Yep, it's fine to not consider future versions when you do say hobby projects, but I worked on a commercial Arduino based project that's supposed to run on top of poles on solar. For that I very much care if they plan to make it cloud dependent... and I don't assume sanity on part of management.
        1718627440 11mo ago
        > I worked on a commercial Arduino based project Me too.
        jack_tripper 11mo ago
        What product?
        deleted 11mo ago
        [deleted]

healsdata 11mo ago

> Adafruit is trying to drum up some marketing content This was evident to me when their original post "yada yada yada'd" over the details to make things in the agreement sound sinister.