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I'd also note capros doesn't fit that description either. I don't know that there were examples that ran more than a single process. That's probably not true,

by ratmice 10mo ago

I'd also note capros doesn't fit that description either. I don't know that there were examples that ran more than a single process. That's probably not true, for anything relying on drivers since user mode drivers are basically processes there... but in the way that people might think of a process.

kragen 10mo ago
I mean, there isn't exactly a thriving ecosystem of existing software built for CapROS. Right now I don't think anybody even has CapROS itself building. The problem has gotten a lot easier since the EROS days, thanks to Xen, QEMU, UEFI (?), and the explosion of cheap hardware, but it looks like maybe Charlie got sick or lost interest or something?
- ratmice 10mo ago
  Yeah, I did see a email on a capabilities list from him about him no longer working on it because of lack of feedback & wanting to just enjoy his retirement. That was the impression I got. When he had resumed his work on it, I personally had been going through a back injury. I still feel bad that I didn't get a chance to contribute any of the hardware ports and software I wrote for it.
  - kragen 10mo ago
    Hmm, do you know when?
    - ratmice 10mo ago
      I wasn't able to google it, or find a public link to the email (but it was posted on a public list) so here is some relevant snippets from it. Nov 20 2022 titled CapROS status "When I retired a year ago I hoped to correct some of those issues, but I want to enjoy retirement and not just have a full-time unpaid job.", ... "I am considering just abandoning CapROS. I believe there are some useful ideas in the system, but so far no one seems to have known or cared about them."
      - ryukafalz 10mo ago
        Since it is a public list, here's the link: https://groups.google.com/g/cap-talk/c/Box4XXhSevw/m/18pUqAQnAQAJ https://groups.google.com/g/cap-talk/c/Box4XXhSevw/m/18pUqAQ... He posted on the list recently too if folks were worried: https://groups.google.com/g/cap-talk/c/XCBwf-zpJWA/m/6CWsNA-FAAAJ https://groups.google.com/g/cap-talk/c/XCBwf-zpJWA/m/6CWsNA-...

by ratmice 10mo ago

kragen 10mo ago

I mean, there isn't exactly a thriving ecosystem of existing software built for CapROS. Right now I don't think anybody even has CapROS itself building. The problem has gotten a lot easier since the EROS days, thanks to Xen, QEMU, UEFI (?), and the explosion of cheap hardware, but it looks like maybe Charlie got sick or lost interest or something?

ratmice 10mo ago
Yeah, I did see a email on a capabilities list from him about him no longer working on it because of lack of feedback & wanting to just enjoy his retirement. That was the impression I got. When he had resumed his work on it, I personally had been going through a back injury. I still feel bad that I didn't get a chance to contribute any of the hardware ports and software I wrote for it.
- kragen 10mo ago
  Hmm, do you know when?
  - ratmice 10mo ago
    I wasn't able to google it, or find a public link to the email (but it was posted on a public list) so here is some relevant snippets from it. Nov 20 2022 titled CapROS status "When I retired a year ago I hoped to correct some of those issues, but I want to enjoy retirement and not just have a full-time unpaid job.", ... "I am considering just abandoning CapROS. I believe there are some useful ideas in the system, but so far no one seems to have known or cared about them."
    - ryukafalz 10mo ago
      Since it is a public list, here's the link: https://groups.google.com/g/cap-talk/c/Box4XXhSevw/m/18pUqAQnAQAJ https://groups.google.com/g/cap-talk/c/Box4XXhSevw/m/18pUqAQ... He posted on the list recently too if folks were worried: https://groups.google.com/g/cap-talk/c/XCBwf-zpJWA/m/6CWsNA-FAAAJ https://groups.google.com/g/cap-talk/c/XCBwf-zpJWA/m/6CWsNA-...