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> Additionally, LG has a setting called "Live Plus" that Reddit users highlighted. When it's turned on, the TV can recognize what's displayed on screen and use

by themafia 11mo ago

> Additionally, LG has a setting called "Live Plus" that Reddit users highlighted. When it's turned on, the TV can recognize what's displayed on screen and use that viewing information for personalized recommendations and ads. LG describes it as an "enhanced viewing experience," Ah. So it's not "AI." It's an "opportunity to spy on every single thing you do."

measurablefunc 11mo ago
Every AI company is doing the same thing, there is nothing special about Microsoft in this instance. If you're using a 3rd party provider for your queries you can assume it is going to end up in the training corpus.
tzs 11mo ago
Those are completely separate. "Live Plus" is a TV setting that has nothing to do with Copilot and has been on their TVs for a long time.
- baby_souffle 11mo ago
  > has been on their TVs for a long time. It's not just LG! They keep trying to shove "a return channel" into the latest ATSC standards for DRM and "enhanced / more accurate ratings".
  - 112233 11mo ago
    How do I check the TV in store does not have modem with esim? Or at least detect and disable embedded cell modems at home?
    - iguessthislldo 11mo ago
      The average person willingly connects them to their wifi, why would TV makers go through the effort and expense? Maybe I'm being too optimistic though...
    - lxgr 11mo ago
      Bluetooth is enough, theoretically, if they have an agreement with Amazon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Sidewalk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Sidewalk And most TVs these days have Bluetooth. ATSC 3.0 also specifies a dedicated long-range return channel with a range of many kilometers.
      - 112233 11mo ago
        I wanted to write comment to the effect of "I don't have amazon devices hur hur", but then realized it does not have to be my device... Especially in an apartment building... What next, ultrasound? IR?
- rockskon 11mo ago
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  - lxgr 11mo ago
    Of course you can be angry at whoever you want, but it seems more productive to be angry at the entity actually causing the thing you dislike.
    - rockskon 11mo ago
      Being angry at the person playing interference for the TV manufacturers seems relevant in that regard.
      - tzs 11mo ago
        You should be angry at whoever taught you reading comprehension.
- Angostura 11mo ago
  At least since 2010. Turned off as soon as I bought mine.
userbinator 11mo ago
"enhanced" (profit) for them, not for you.

measurablefunc 11mo ago

Every AI company is doing the same thing, there is nothing special about Microsoft in this instance. If you're using a 3rd party provider for your queries you can assume it is going to end up in the training corpus.

tzs 11mo ago

Those are completely separate. "Live Plus" is a TV setting that has nothing to do with Copilot and has been on their TVs for a long time.

baby_souffle 11mo ago
> has been on their TVs for a long time. It's not just LG! They keep trying to shove "a return channel" into the latest ATSC standards for DRM and "enhanced / more accurate ratings".
- 112233 11mo ago
  How do I check the TV in store does not have modem with esim? Or at least detect and disable embedded cell modems at home?
  - iguessthislldo 11mo ago
    The average person willingly connects them to their wifi, why would TV makers go through the effort and expense? Maybe I'm being too optimistic though...
  - lxgr 11mo ago
    Bluetooth is enough, theoretically, if they have an agreement with Amazon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Sidewalk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Sidewalk And most TVs these days have Bluetooth. ATSC 3.0 also specifies a dedicated long-range return channel with a range of many kilometers.
    - 112233 11mo ago
      I wanted to write comment to the effect of "I don't have amazon devices hur hur", but then realized it does not have to be my device... Especially in an apartment building... What next, ultrasound? IR?
rockskon 11mo ago
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- lxgr 11mo ago
  Of course you can be angry at whoever you want, but it seems more productive to be angry at the entity actually causing the thing you dislike.
  - rockskon 11mo ago
    Being angry at the person playing interference for the TV manufacturers seems relevant in that regard.
    - tzs 11mo ago
      You should be angry at whoever taught you reading comprehension.
Angostura 11mo ago
At least since 2010. Turned off as soon as I bought mine.

userbinator 11mo ago

"enhanced" (profit) for them, not for you.