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> people who are willing to pay money for art seem to strongly prefer that their money goes to an artist, not a GPU cluster operator Businesses which don't wan

by musicale 11mo ago

> people who are willing to pay money for art seem to strongly prefer that their money goes to an artist, not a GPU cluster operator Businesses which don't want to pay money strongly prefer AI.

sureglymop 11mo ago
Yeah but if they, for example use AI to do their design or marketing materials then the public seems to dislike that. But again, no numbers that's just how it feels to me.
- solumunus 11mo ago
  After enough time, exposure and improvement of the technology I don’t think the public will know or care. There will be generations born into a world full of AI art who know no better and don’t share the same nostalgia as you or I.
heavyset_go 11mo ago
Then they get a product that legally isn't theirs and anyone can do anything with it. AI output isn't anyone's IP, it can't be copyrighted.
- windexh8er 11mo ago
  What's hilarious is that, for years, the enterprise shied away from open source due to the legal considerations they were concerned about. But now... With AI, even though everyone knows that copyright material was stolen by every frontier provider, the enterprise is now like: stolen copyright that can potentially allow me to get rid of some pesky employees? Sign us up!
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  - heavyset_go 11mo ago
    Yup, there's this angle that's been a 180, but I'm referring to the fact that the US Copyright Office determined that AI output isn't anyone's IP. Which in itself is an absurdity, where the culmination of the world's copyrighted content is compiled and used to then spit out content that somehow belongs to no one.
- semi-extrinsic 11mo ago
  No difference from e.g. Shutterstock, then? I think most businesses using AI illustrations are not expecting to copyright the images themselves. The logos and words that are put on top of the AI image are the important bits to have trademarked/copyrighted.
  - heavyset_go 11mo ago
    I guess I'm looking at it from a software perspective, where code itself is the magic IP/capital/whatever that's crucial to the business, and replacing it with non-IP anyone can copy/use/sell would be a liability and weird choice.

> people who are willing to pay money for art seem to strongly prefer that their money goes to an artist, not a GPU cluster operator Businesses which don't want to pay money strongly prefer AI.

sureglymop 11mo ago

Yeah but if they, for example use AI to do their design or marketing materials then the public seems to dislike that. But again, no numbers that's just how it feels to me.

solumunus 11mo ago
After enough time, exposure and improvement of the technology I don’t think the public will know or care. There will be generations born into a world full of AI art who know no better and don’t share the same nostalgia as you or I.

heavyset_go 11mo ago

Then they get a product that legally isn't theirs and anyone can do anything with it. AI output isn't anyone's IP, it can't be copyrighted.

windexh8er 11mo ago
What's hilarious is that, for years, the enterprise shied away from open source due to the legal considerations they were concerned about. But now... With AI, even though everyone knows that copyright material was stolen by every frontier provider, the enterprise is now like: stolen copyright that can potentially allow me to get rid of some pesky employees? Sign us up!
- deleted 11mo ago
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- heavyset_go 11mo ago
  Yup, there's this angle that's been a 180, but I'm referring to the fact that the US Copyright Office determined that AI output isn't anyone's IP. Which in itself is an absurdity, where the culmination of the world's copyrighted content is compiled and used to then spit out content that somehow belongs to no one.
semi-extrinsic 11mo ago
No difference from e.g. Shutterstock, then? I think most businesses using AI illustrations are not expecting to copyright the images themselves. The logos and words that are put on top of the AI image are the important bits to have trademarked/copyrighted.
- heavyset_go 11mo ago
  I guess I'm looking at it from a software perspective, where code itself is the magic IP/capital/whatever that's crucial to the business, and replacing it with non-IP anyone can copy/use/sell would be a liability and weird choice.