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What is the ideology we don’t like? I think it is easy to throw stones when the reality is that if your nation suffered a similar attack, many many people would
by whimsicalism 10mo ago
What is the ideology we don’t like? I think it is easy to throw stones when the reality is that if your nation suffered a similar attack, many many people would get swept up in anger and outrage and retaliatory madness.
What Israel is doing is wrong, but I don’t think it would be unique among
developed states experiencing something similar.
- Swizec 10mo agoYes most people would fight back against foreign occupation
- whimsicalism 10mo ago[flagged]
- barbazoo 10mo agoZionism and violence against Palestineans predates the October attacks by a couple of decades.
- deleted 10mo ago[deleted]
- cess11 10mo agoMore like a century.
- HappyPanacea 10mo ago[flagged]
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- JumpCrisscross 10mo agoThis game—who hurt whom first—doesn’t work outside the new world. It particularly fails in parts of the world that were prehistorically settled.
- HappyPanacea 10mo agoI also dislike this game but I didn't start this game - barbazoo did and he happened to be wrong so I had to correct him.
- ori_b 10mo agoZionism, as in the belief that Jews deserve self-determination as a nation?
- sporkxrocket 10mo ago[flagged]
- wk_end 10mo ago[flagged]
- JumpCrisscross 10mo agoThe formation of Israel was a shitshow. The region has always been a shitshow, it’s the coast closest to the cradle of civilization. But it’s unfair to refer to the Nakba as peaceful. (Though it’s no less peaceful than the nutters calling for the destruction of Israel in response.)
- wk_end 10mo agoI don't believe I referred to the Nakba or anything else as "peaceful" - of course the Zionists engaged in (non-peaceful) violence, before and during and after the war. But the point is that, contra the claims that ethnic cleansing is "at the core" of Zionism, violence wasn't the Zionist starting point and unlike the Palestinians they were content with a peaceful solution; neither of those things would've been the case if violence was fundamental to their project.
- whimsicalism 10mo agoyou’re denying ethnic cleansing occurred in the Nakba when we have primary source evidence that it was
- wk_end 10mo ago