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> The CEO of the American tech company is a former cyber specialist from an elite unit of the Israeli army, as are several other members of its top management.

by sva_ 10mo ago

> The CEO of the American tech company is a former cyber specialist from an elite unit of the Israeli army, as are several other members of its top management. This is about Unit 8200? The 'cybersecurity' unit that Israelis can join instead of doing their mandatory military service on the gun? I think this acquisition could indeed be problematic, but this seems like a weird framing. The article could give more context than that.

xenospn 10mo ago
8200 is mandatory military service.
- Cyph0n 10mo ago
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  - yonixw 10mo ago
    This is not written in the article. Can you give a source? Since based on linkedin he was not in the army since 1991.... (And I mean any source for any of your assumptions...)
    - Cyph0n 10mo ago
      No. I was responding to the implied claim that mandatory service generally absolves a person of any form of complicity.
everdrive 10mo ago
It's not an opt-out in the literal sense. Everyone is conscripted, and then based on ability people are placed into different units. If you were talented, wouldn't you try to avoid getting put on patrol in Gaza or the West Bank?
- 4gotunameagain 10mo ago
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  - bushbaba 10mo ago
    No idea where you live. But I’d hope you’d fight for the safety of your family and neighbors. Thats literally all it means to be in the idf for most.
    - TRiG_Ireland 10mo ago
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    - 4gotunameagain 10mo ago
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      - WrongAssumption 10mo ago
        Is that a position you've been in before? If so is that what you did?
      - nailer 10mo ago
        They’ve made peace with: Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, the UAE and Saudi. Hamas started the war because they were threatened by that. So no they don’t cultivate enemies. Islamists that hate Jews for not being part of their empire hate them.
        Cyph0n 10mo ago
        And then subsequently ruined peace with 3/4 (Saudi never normalized). > Islamists that hate Jews for not being part of their empire hate them. That’s not even close to reality, but whatever helps you justify genocide I guess.
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darubedarob 10mo ago
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dundarious 10mo ago
They do more than cybersecurity, they collect and analyze signals intelligence. Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan in the CIA would be in Unit 8200 if he was Israeli -- the unit is not at all purely "techy" in nature. They are also significantly responsible for "analysis" such as target selection, as covered here https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/ https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/
- oliwarner 10mo ago
  Giving Jack Ryan as a example of a sigint analyst is vastly sensationalist for what is essentially —for the non-fictonal majority doing it— an office job, only with security clearance and real world implications.
  - dundarious 10mo ago
    That aspect wasn't my intent, but in the Red October movie for example, he states that his job is "sitting in an office and writing books", and the story revolves around him doing things that are explicitly not his job, and him confronting how "green" he is for all the field work of the latter half. I was specifically thinking of that line about sitting in an office writing books, analyzing, strategizing, justifying and criticizing, all of which are crucial guides to action -- hardly something you could describe as "just a tech job", for example.

by sva_ 10mo ago

xenospn 10mo ago

8200 is mandatory military service.

Cyph0n 10mo ago
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- yonixw 10mo ago
  This is not written in the article. Can you give a source? Since based on linkedin he was not in the army since 1991.... (And I mean any source for any of your assumptions...)
  - Cyph0n 10mo ago
    No. I was responding to the implied claim that mandatory service generally absolves a person of any form of complicity.

everdrive 10mo ago

It's not an opt-out in the literal sense. Everyone is conscripted, and then based on ability people are placed into different units. If you were talented, wouldn't you try to avoid getting put on patrol in Gaza or the West Bank?

4gotunameagain 10mo ago
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- bushbaba 10mo ago
  No idea where you live. But I’d hope you’d fight for the safety of your family and neighbors. Thats literally all it means to be in the idf for most.
  - TRiG_Ireland 10mo ago
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  - 4gotunameagain 10mo ago
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    - WrongAssumption 10mo ago
      Is that a position you've been in before? If so is that what you did?
    - nailer 10mo ago
      They’ve made peace with: Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, the UAE and Saudi. Hamas started the war because they were threatened by that. So no they don’t cultivate enemies. Islamists that hate Jews for not being part of their empire hate them.
      - Cyph0n 10mo ago
        And then subsequently ruined peace with 3/4 (Saudi never normalized). > Islamists that hate Jews for not being part of their empire hate them. That’s not even close to reality, but whatever helps you justify genocide I guess.
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darubedarob 10mo ago

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dundarious 10mo ago

They do more than cybersecurity, they collect and analyze signals intelligence. Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan in the CIA would be in Unit 8200 if he was Israeli -- the unit is not at all purely "techy" in nature. They are also significantly responsible for "analysis" such as target selection, as covered here https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/ https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/

oliwarner 10mo ago
Giving Jack Ryan as a example of a sigint analyst is vastly sensationalist for what is essentially —for the non-fictonal majority doing it— an office job, only with security clearance and real world implications.
- dundarious 10mo ago
  That aspect wasn't my intent, but in the Red October movie for example, he states that his job is "sitting in an office and writing books", and the story revolves around him doing things that are explicitly not his job, and him confronting how "green" he is for all the field work of the latter half. I was specifically thinking of that line about sitting in an office writing books, analyzing, strategizing, justifying and criticizing, all of which are crucial guides to action -- hardly something you could describe as "just a tech job", for example.