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Dogalog: A realtime Prolog-based livecoding music environment

82 points by triska 10mo ago

chrisjj 10mo ago
Looks great! But on latest Android Chrome here, the live demo plays two hits then silence.
aethrum 10mo ago
Volume warning on that demo, lol
mparis 10mo ago
I haven't tried the demo but I love this idea! Would be cool if I could somehow constrain a chord to a key then enumerate the scale degrees that I want so I can make some real funky sounds that don't fit the standard Chord Qualities.
7thaccount 10mo ago
This reminds me of streudal: https://strudel.cc/ https://strudel.cc/ https://larkob.github.io/strudel/tutorial/ https://larkob.github.io/strudel/tutorial/ I've seen some cool demos on YouTube from SwitchAngel.
- liotier 10mo ago
  Both have a music domain specific language, but they differ in essential ways: - Strudel, TidalCycles and FoxDot are temporal-first, designed for live performance, with code rewritten on the fly. - Dogalog is a constraints-solving composition system, for offline use.
  - dannyayers 9mo ago
    Dogalog works live - try it.
Avshalom 10mo ago
I have absolutely no idea what to do with this but I'mma play around with it.
- Avshalom 10mo ago
  also just pops into my head https://dbs.informatik.uni-halle.de/microlog/ https://dbs.informatik.uni-halle.de/microlog/ for an entirely unrelated and completely different project that welds time onto prolog
thomascountz 10mo ago
How are things going with Sonic Pi?[1] I have lots of fond memories and don't remember there being many strongly popular alternatives some years ago... though maybe I was living under a rock (..and roll). [1]: https://sonic-pi.net/ https://sonic-pi.net/
- FelipeCortez 10mo ago
  it's still going: https://github.com/samaaron/tau5 https://github.com/samaaron/tau5
- runevault 10mo ago
  Feels like more and more of these sorts of things are popping up. For example there's TidalCycles which is a Haskell version of the idea, which also exists as https://strudel.cc/ https://strudel.cc/ which is I believe a webasm version of it.
  - lambdas 10mo ago
    Other way round, no? TidalCycles predates Sonic Pi by a number of years
    - runevault 10mo ago
      Really? Color me corrected I only ran into TC after SonicPi. Though this entire discussion reminds me I need to fix my TidalCycles setup, had it working on Linux with vscode but I tried it out again a month or two ago and it wasn't playing anymore.
- som 10mo ago
  Really appreciate the focus on education and a11y with sonic pi - a genuine differentiator
vilterp 10mo ago
Very neat. Would love to see events for each instrument laid out along a timeline!
linesofcode 10mo ago
Love this! Musically I’m a noob but this I can understand!
xonix 10mo ago
Reminded me of bytebeats (though I admit it's a different thing): https://bytebeat.demozoo.org/#t=0&e=0&s=44100&bb=5d00000100fe00000000000000001461cc5f0043e1f0efcb8775f3c089dbea8c42192b9194efc43822f2c69420f6e6ccef2d2d6a67a7e615647d0e458781f3c67c7308b119843d158e603d5e22d1886e4587bafd60bab667a2e5244d35d62b66dea953f1606447dbe54223e7ac02be3ae86a101bc9834d892bfa6255f95c653dbd9873f916ea27cf246fefcffe6c36622c3438cee63cc4fb16c23e13dcacb9fe1a3377 https://bytebeat.demozoo.org/#t=0&e=0&s=44100&bb=5d00000100f...
AlecSchueler 10mo ago
Was it vibe-coded or is it just the README? Not a critique, just a question.
- doug-moen 10mo ago
  Yes, it was vibe-coded, and the author says they still haven't learned Prolog yet. <https://www.reddit.com/r/livecoding/comments/1pmabwv/dogalog_livecoding_in_prolog_on_the_web/ https://www.reddit.com/r/livecoding/comments/1pmabwv/dogalog...>
  - dannyayers 9mo ago
    I did study Prolog in a past life but it never really stuck. It was vibe coded but I spent a lot of time planning prompts - I've had to deal with Claude's style (cruft explosion) in other projects, so I had my eyes open on this one.
dannyayers 9mo ago
Co-creator (with Claude) here - thanks for the suggestions! I will be visiting it again in the near future. Since first making it live I have added an AI connector but unfortunately have managed to break the server I had proxying to an LLM. I'll try and fix next session.

82 points by triska 10mo ago

chrisjj 10mo ago

Looks great! But on latest Android Chrome here, the live demo plays two hits then silence.

aethrum 10mo ago

Volume warning on that demo, lol

mparis 10mo ago

I haven't tried the demo but I love this idea! Would be cool if I could somehow constrain a chord to a key then enumerate the scale degrees that I want so I can make some real funky sounds that don't fit the standard Chord Qualities.

7thaccount 10mo ago

This reminds me of streudal: https://strudel.cc/ https://strudel.cc/ https://larkob.github.io/strudel/tutorial/ https://larkob.github.io/strudel/tutorial/ I've seen some cool demos on YouTube from SwitchAngel.

liotier 10mo ago
Both have a music domain specific language, but they differ in essential ways: - Strudel, TidalCycles and FoxDot are temporal-first, designed for live performance, with code rewritten on the fly. - Dogalog is a constraints-solving composition system, for offline use.
- dannyayers 9mo ago
  Dogalog works live - try it.

Avshalom 10mo ago

I have absolutely no idea what to do with this but I'mma play around with it.

Avshalom 10mo ago
also just pops into my head https://dbs.informatik.uni-halle.de/microlog/ https://dbs.informatik.uni-halle.de/microlog/ for an entirely unrelated and completely different project that welds time onto prolog

thomascountz 10mo ago

How are things going with Sonic Pi?[1] I have lots of fond memories and don't remember there being many strongly popular alternatives some years ago... though maybe I was living under a rock (..and roll). [1]: https://sonic-pi.net/ https://sonic-pi.net/

FelipeCortez 10mo ago
it's still going: https://github.com/samaaron/tau5 https://github.com/samaaron/tau5
runevault 10mo ago
Feels like more and more of these sorts of things are popping up. For example there's TidalCycles which is a Haskell version of the idea, which also exists as https://strudel.cc/ https://strudel.cc/ which is I believe a webasm version of it.
- lambdas 10mo ago
  Other way round, no? TidalCycles predates Sonic Pi by a number of years
  - runevault 10mo ago
    Really? Color me corrected I only ran into TC after SonicPi. Though this entire discussion reminds me I need to fix my TidalCycles setup, had it working on Linux with vscode but I tried it out again a month or two ago and it wasn't playing anymore.
som 10mo ago
Really appreciate the focus on education and a11y with sonic pi - a genuine differentiator

vilterp 10mo ago

Very neat. Would love to see events for each instrument laid out along a timeline!

linesofcode 10mo ago

Love this! Musically I’m a noob but this I can understand!

xonix 10mo ago

Reminded me of bytebeats (though I admit it's a different thing): https://bytebeat.demozoo.org/#t=0&e=0&s=44100&bb=5d00000100fe00000000000000001461cc5f0043e1f0efcb8775f3c089dbea8c42192b9194efc43822f2c69420f6e6ccef2d2d6a67a7e615647d0e458781f3c67c7308b119843d158e603d5e22d1886e4587bafd60bab667a2e5244d35d62b66dea953f1606447dbe54223e7ac02be3ae86a101bc9834d892bfa6255f95c653dbd9873f916ea27cf246fefcffe6c36622c3438cee63cc4fb16c23e13dcacb9fe1a3377 https://bytebeat.demozoo.org/#t=0&e=0&s=44100&bb=5d00000100f...

AlecSchueler 10mo ago

Was it vibe-coded or is it just the README? Not a critique, just a question.

doug-moen 10mo ago
Yes, it was vibe-coded, and the author says they still haven't learned Prolog yet. <https://www.reddit.com/r/livecoding/comments/1pmabwv/dogalog_livecoding_in_prolog_on_the_web/ https://www.reddit.com/r/livecoding/comments/1pmabwv/dogalog...>
- dannyayers 9mo ago
  I did study Prolog in a past life but it never really stuck. It was vibe coded but I spent a lot of time planning prompts - I've had to deal with Claude's style (cruft explosion) in other projects, so I had my eyes open on this one.

dannyayers 9mo ago

Co-creator (with Claude) here - thanks for the suggestions! I will be visiting it again in the near future. Since first making it live I have added an AI connector but unfortunately have managed to break the server I had proxying to an LLM. I'll try and fix next session.