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Microsoft has always been the bad guys. Does nobody remember Embrace Extend Extinguish any more? Those of us who came up in the 80s and 90s remember that bad
by stackghost 10mo ago
Microsoft has always been the bad guys. Does nobody remember Embrace Extend Extinguish any more?
Those of us who came up in the 80s and 90s remember that bad behavior and even worse software is baked into Microsoft's DNA.
That sort of organizational culture doesn't just evaporate.
- charcircuit 10mo ago>Does nobody remember Embrace Extend Extinguish any more? EEE was something a single Microsoft employee allegedly came up with 0 evidence of it being used internally within Microsoft.
- esperent 10mo agoInternally, it was Embrace, Extend, Innovate, used in an executive memo from 1994 [0]. But it doesn't matter where it originated or who first said it. The reason this phrase gained so much popularity is that outside observers could see that's their strategy was (and still is). [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...
- userbinator 10mo agoMS was hostile towards competitors, not users/customers. You can run a VM of Windows 9x or NT and see how quiet the experience was. No pervasive spyware or ads to bother you while you work.
- geezthatswhack 10mo agoThat’s only because they had no practical way of doing that since no computer was expected to be online 24/7. Had they had the opportunity, they would 100% have taken it. Windows was never about serving a good experience to customers, it was always about serving the Microsoft-owned experience to customers—and these two things are very much mutually exclusive.
- left-struck 10mo agoI don’t think they would have done it any other way, it always had to be a slow ratcheting of control over the user. If the user hostile experience that exists today was the default back then, everyone would have moved to something else while they still could.
- geezthatswhack 10mo ago[dead]