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- Pooge 11mo agoTheir point is that despite being the designers of such systems, they prevent their own children from using them. Akin to a drug dealer not consuming what he sells.
- techblueberry 11mo agoAlthough I hate social media with a passion and would be fine if the government banned it outright, I don’t think this is a fair reading. Do toy manufacturers let their kids play with their toys 24 hours a day and not go outside or do homework? Video game devs? Parents are supposed to help their kids limit their time in everything. ‘He stressed “everything in moderation”’
- OccamsMirror 11mo ago> Do toy manufacturers let their kids play with their toys 24 hours a day and not go outside or do homework? I bet toy manufacturers have never had to think: "is this toy bad for my child's development?"
- techblueberry 11mo agoReally? 10 of the worst toys for your child’s learning and development: https://ilslearningcorner.com/2018-12-learning-toys-10-of-the-worst-toys-for-your-childs-learning-development/ https://ilslearningcorner.com/2018-12-learning-toys-10-of-th... There are actually some pretty big risks especially in terms of like motor development, and considering now they’re adding a splash of AI to everything and a ton of toys have screens, well.
- IncreasePosts 11mo agoIs any YouTube bad for their child's development? Or just spending large amounts of time on it with no adult supervision?
- lesuorac 11mo agoI would expect an x-ray technician to limit their kid's time in x-rays. It doesn't mean kids should never get an x-ray. Sometimes moderation means complete abstinence but generally not.
- websiteapi 11mo agoYou cannot be serious with this comparison.
- exe34 11mo agocould you highlight what in the original article made you think they were banning their kids from social media entirely? or were you trying to explain something else?
- tsimionescu 11mo agoThe GGP, not the original article, said "they prevent [emp. mine] their kids from using them".
- hamburglar 11mo agoBreaking: Willy Wonka execs don’t let their kids eat unlimited amount of candy. See how uninteresting and obvious that is?
- tgv 11mo agoThat misses the point by a mile and a half: nobody let's their children eat unlimited amounts of chocolate. They do, however, let their children access Tiltok, Youtube, etc.
- iteria 11mo agoExcept that's not true. Plenty of parents let their kids have unlimited access to junk food and candy. Neighbor kids come over and they don't know what to do because I only have water, fruit, and pretzels. I have been to so many parent's houses who have whole pantries of just sugary snacks.
- Libidinalecon 10mo agoNo this misses the point. I wanted to eat unlimited junk food when I was a kid but my parents wouldn't let me. You can change it even to unlimited protein shakes. It is the same point. It is almost like kids are kind of stupid if you let them do whatever they want.
- conception 11mo agoOnly if your mental model equates youtube to junk food.
- pj_mukh 11mo agoPersonally haven’t met any parents who don’t know this already. The problem is childcare not knowledge.
- Thorrez 11mo ago>“We do limit their time on YouTube and other platforms and other forms of media. On weekdays we tend to be more strict, on weekends we tend to be less so. We’re not perfect by any stretch,” >He stressed “everything in moderation” is what works best for him and his wife, and that extends to other online services and platforms. >YouTube’s former CEO Susan Wojcicki, also barred her children from browsing videos on the app, unless they were using YouTube Kids. She also limited the amount of time they spent on the platform. So they're not completely banning their kids from using YouTube. The current YouTube CEO uses a time limit. The previous YouTube CEO uses a time limit and limits usage to the YouTube Kids app. Disclosure: I work at Google but not on YouTube.
- OccamsMirror 11mo agoMy kids aren’t allowed on YouTube. I run a local system that mirrors approved channels to our home server and serves them through Plex. Creators lose ad revenue; that’s unfortunate. The alternative was nonstop ads on children’s content and a recommendation system pushing garbage. That trade-off was unacceptable.
- mapontosevenths 11mo agoThose ads are optional. You can just pay for it. Its actually pretty good value for the money. Edit: I forgot to mention Family Link. Once you have a family membership (maybe even before?) You can also use Googles family link to enable a restricted mode that hides adult content for specific accounts. You actually get a pretty great experience for the whole family for about $20/month.
- HelloUsername 11mo agoThen you'd be giving money to the Google company as well. You can also look up the content creators and donate directly.
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- IncreasePosts 11mo agoThey prevent their kids from having unlimited time with YouTube. Does YouTube ever suggest that kids should be able to use it asich as they want?
- concinds 11mo agoYou’re the one bringing the conversation back to superficials (blaming society and stuff you have no control over) instead of digging deeper. You don’t need to be rich or stay-at-home to talk to your kids or read books to them, which an increasing fraction of parents don’t do. Restricting tech use is common-sense and free. Books are cheaper than an iPad for each kid. I’m from Europe. We have early childcare. Kindergarten teachers (I don’t know if that’s the right term) are still seeing obvious issues with screens and really neglected kids that the parents barely interact with. Don’t try to reduce everything issue down to one, the world can face multiple issues simultaneously. So can we talk about tech addiction in kids and parents without changing the topic to a different one?
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- emsign 11mo agoSocial media is not a substitute for child care
- Amezarak 11mo agoThis is a cop out. You don’t have to put your kids in front of a TV or tablet. You can simply establish boundaries and leave them to themselves. They will engage in imaginative play for hours on end just like kids have for thousands of years. Source: my kids have been doing it since 5AM while I lay in bed sick.
- bakugo 11mo agoGiving your kids the attention and protection they need is not just something to be "purchased". I know this is HN and the everything-as-a-service mentality is prevalent, but come on.
- lyu07282 10mo agoYou also have to think deeper than that, media in the west is propaganda, you have to ask why are they all pushing the "children are in danger from social media" narrative? You should never make the mistake to be so naive to trust in their genuine good intentions, this has nothing to do with children. The real purpose is to build broad consensus for surveillance, control and censorship of social media, "to protect the children" is the thing they tell you to justify it. They are recognizing they have lost the narrative control. How do you manufacture consent for war and genocide when you have completely lost young people, they see the wall of carnage and dead children and will not be persuadable by the legacy media telling them to close their eyes and ears.