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I don’t know about that. The poor from just about every other country in the world seem desperate to live in America. While American capitalism has many faults,

by hcurtiss 10mo ago

I don’t know about that. The poor from just about every other country in the world seem desperate to live in America. While American capitalism has many faults, oppressing the bottom quintile is not one of them. The US median income is consistently top ten globally.

Gud 10mo ago
This is completely wrong. Even “the poor” in most parts of the world has a pretty good life weight where they are. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hVimVzgtD6w&pp=ygUMSGFucyByb3NsaW5n https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hVimVzgtD6w&pp=ygUMSGFucyByb3N...
Arodex 10mo ago
>The poor from just about every other country in the world seem desperate to live in America Immigration to the USA, both illegal and legal, has cratered.
reeredfdfdf 10mo ago
Median income doesn't tell much if you don't factor in the cost of living. My salary sucks compared to what I would earn in America, but when I factor in things like free healthcare, daycare and higher level education, I'm better off here.
- petcat 10mo ago
  What countries offer free daycare? I know there are a few in Europe. It's not super common, so I'm curious to know where
  - sdenton4 10mo ago
    I believe Sweden is one: https://www.sdg16.plus/policies/universal-childcare-model-sweden/ https://www.sdg16.plus/policies/universal-childcare-model-sw...
    - petcat 10mo ago
      That doesn't look free. Subsidized, yes. Lots of countries subsidize childcare. Including every US state
      - sdenton4 10mo ago
        Sure, but extremely cheap collared with the us. Here's a UNICEF report comparing childcare policy amongst rich countries: https://www.unicef.org/innocenti/reports/where-do-rich-countries-stand-childcare https://www.unicef.org/innocenti/reports/where-do-rich-count... Sweden ranks third in the comparison metric (what good is free childcare if it is very bad or inaccessible?), and the us ranks 40th out of 41.
drivingmenuts 10mo ago
The US does a good job of selling the idea of living here and getting rich, though it does a better job of selling it to people who aren't already embedded in daily life in the US. While we have, perhaps, much lower numbers of extreme poverty compared to a lot of countries, as one of the richest countries, and growing richer by the day, we should have zero extreme poverty. The people with the will to fix our poverty lack the money and very few with money have no real desire to help the less fortunate.

Gud 10mo ago

This is completely wrong. Even “the poor” in most parts of the world has a pretty good life weight where they are. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hVimVzgtD6w&pp=ygUMSGFucyByb3NsaW5n https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hVimVzgtD6w&pp=ygUMSGFucyByb3N...

Arodex 10mo ago

>The poor from just about every other country in the world seem desperate to live in America Immigration to the USA, both illegal and legal, has cratered.

reeredfdfdf 10mo ago

Median income doesn't tell much if you don't factor in the cost of living. My salary sucks compared to what I would earn in America, but when I factor in things like free healthcare, daycare and higher level education, I'm better off here.

petcat 10mo ago
What countries offer free daycare? I know there are a few in Europe. It's not super common, so I'm curious to know where
- sdenton4 10mo ago
  I believe Sweden is one: https://www.sdg16.plus/policies/universal-childcare-model-sweden/ https://www.sdg16.plus/policies/universal-childcare-model-sw...
  - petcat 10mo ago
    That doesn't look free. Subsidized, yes. Lots of countries subsidize childcare. Including every US state
    - sdenton4 10mo ago
      Sure, but extremely cheap collared with the us. Here's a UNICEF report comparing childcare policy amongst rich countries: https://www.unicef.org/innocenti/reports/where-do-rich-countries-stand-childcare https://www.unicef.org/innocenti/reports/where-do-rich-count... Sweden ranks third in the comparison metric (what good is free childcare if it is very bad or inaccessible?), and the us ranks 40th out of 41.

drivingmenuts 10mo ago

The US does a good job of selling the idea of living here and getting rich, though it does a better job of selling it to people who aren't already embedded in daily life in the US. While we have, perhaps, much lower numbers of extreme poverty compared to a lot of countries, as one of the richest countries, and growing richer by the day, we should have zero extreme poverty. The people with the will to fix our poverty lack the money and very few with money have no real desire to help the less fortunate.