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Use case: Germany It's going great!!!11 https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/DE/live/fifteen_minutes https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/DE/live/fift
by nixass 10mo ago
Use case: Germany
It's going great!!!11
https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/DE/live/fifteen_minutes https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/DE/live/fifteen_min...
- notTooFarGone 10mo agoOk let's link Germany when the sun is not shining and the wind is not blowing. Thanks for cherry picking and not linking averages.
- lawn 10mo agoYou still need electricity when the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't blowing you know?
- Archelaos 10mo agoGas-fired power plants are planned for load balancing, and these are already being built in such a way that they can be converted to hydrogen operation at a later date.
- lawn 10mo agoGas... How "great" for the environment.
- ViewTrick1002 10mo agoPerfect is the enemy of good enough. We still need to decarbonize construction, agriculture, aviation, maritime shipping etc. Let’s not stare us blind at perfect in one sector wasting money and opportunity cost which needs to be spent on harder to abate industries.
- lawn 10mo agoSeems weird to say that while arguing against nuclear.
- nixass 10mo agoYou can move slider for last 24hrs, there were sunny bits in Germany. CO2 is constantly shit over here. And yeah.. what am I supposed to do when it's not sunny or no wind? Fart into windfarm?
- Phil_Latio 10mo agoThen look at the the average and compare with France. Germany causes 6 times more Co2 stemming from energy production. The energy mix in Germany leads to a situation where electric cars are dirtier than diesel (for the first ~200000 km / 125000 miles driven).
- Archelaos 10mo agoCitation needed. I don't belief a word of this.
- derriz 10mo ago> The energy mix in Germany leads to a situation where electric cars are dirtier than diesel (for the first ~200000 km / 125000 miles driven). Renewable share of electricity production is about 56% so this claim is not at all credible. https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/germany-covers-nearly-56-percent-2025-electricity-use-renewables https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/germany-covers-nearly-5...
- nosianu 10mo agoThat's what this is for, in general: https://energy.ec.europa.eu/topics/infrastructure/trans-european-networks-energy_en https://energy.ec.europa.eu/topics/infrastructure/trans-euro... Also, Germany currently has the problem of much more and more reliable wind generation in the north, but not enough network capacity to send it all south when needed. It is being addressed, but as expected, it is very complicated because infrastructure across the whole country touches the interests of a lot of groups with very different interests. We might need much better tunnel building equipment and a deep sub-terranean network... (useful sci-fi idea, needs to be able to cope with mild earth quakes in some regions).
- Archelaos 10mo agoThis! Don't be disappointed by the downvotes. The fussile+nuclear energy lobby is desparte because of Germany's success. This industry is the equivalent of the tabacoo and pestizide industry of the past. Everything is fine, cheap and under control -- until it isn't ...
- nuxi 10mo agoWe need more Kohl, that'll do the trick...
- seec 10mo agoGermany shows how trying to rely solely on renewables is a fool's errand. They can go from having over 50% of their electricity generated from renewables, but then suddenly it falls to barely over 20% in a single day. But the low production can last multiple days (for reference, look at the 3rd, 4th, and 5th of December 2025). For reference, to store a single day of Germany's electricity at the current battery storage price ($66/kwh) you would need over a hundred billion dollars. Even if battery storage is to be divided by 3 in the coming years, we are still talking tens of billions of dollars for something that isn't even reliable and has a hard limit (go over the 3 days of storage capacity, too bad, you're fucked). Even considering how nuclear construction is stupidly expensive nowadays, that would still be cheaper and more reliable (in large part thanks to German bureaucracy, fuck you by the way for the sabotage at Flamanville). Renewable is the German superiority complex applied at scale. They can't help themselves from overengineering cars, so that makes sense.