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This seems a bit incoherent, there must be a real reason for them to start thinking the “filth of others” has some basis in reality… It couldn’t have arisen ju

This seems a bit incoherent, there must be a real reason for them to start thinking the “filth of others” has some basis in reality… It couldn’t have arisen just randomly or on a lark.

MomsAVoxell 10mo ago
The “filth of others” can be described in as many ways as a human might use to justify their elevation of one tribe over the degradation of another. Look at it critically - whenever you encounter a totalitarian-authoritarian personality bloviating about “those people over there” (others), its usually based on the totalitarian mechanism of ‘avoiding affinity with attributes considered unsavoury’ (filth). This concept has other applications. If you have two villages, separated perhaps by a near-insurmountable mountain or lake, or if one of those villages raises cows while the other raises goats - this is usually the basis of the formation of a new dialect, accent, or indeed entirely new language. However, when civilization occurs and those two villages merge into a broader community, that language changes to become a unity. This is observable at an individual level, too. Any unacknowledged or under-recognized similarities/identities/differences between two or more entities will inevitably be used to justify segregation of those entities. The solution, as always, is to identify similarities/identities/differences in a cohesive manner - this is anathema to the totalitarian-authoritarian personality, who is usually pretty stubborn about enforcing, in totality, those under-acknowledged facets.
- MichaelZuo 10mo ago
  I don’t see how this addresses the issue of there being an underlying real reason? Of course the reason then subsquently can be inflated, conflated, mixed together strangely, contorted, etc… I’m not doubting that.
  - MomsAVoxell 10mo ago
    The underlying reason is a lack of cultural fluidity, or in other words, an over-abundance of cultural rigidity, which manifests as a desire to be free of other cultures. The most effective antidote to totalitarian-authoritarianism is a one-way ticket to somewhere distant. German villages, as comfortable as they are, don’t really promote this antidote.
    - MichaelZuo 10mo ago
      > The underlying reason is a lack of cultural fluidity, or in other words, an over-abundance of cultural rigidity And how do you know this? What’s the actual argument for why that must the case?
      - MomsAVoxell 10mo ago
        The abundance of evidence that humans will fight to death to be the clean ones.
        MichaelZuo 10mo ago
        Did you intend to reply to a different comment? This doesn’t seem relevant to making an argument for the claims in the quoted text.

This seems a bit incoherent, there must be a real reason for them to start thinking the “filth of others” has some basis in reality… It couldn’t have arisen just randomly or on a lark.

MomsAVoxell 10mo ago

The “filth of others” can be described in as many ways as a human might use to justify their elevation of one tribe over the degradation of another. Look at it critically - whenever you encounter a totalitarian-authoritarian personality bloviating about “those people over there” (others), its usually based on the totalitarian mechanism of ‘avoiding affinity with attributes considered unsavoury’ (filth). This concept has other applications. If you have two villages, separated perhaps by a near-insurmountable mountain or lake, or if one of those villages raises cows while the other raises goats - this is usually the basis of the formation of a new dialect, accent, or indeed entirely new language. However, when civilization occurs and those two villages merge into a broader community, that language changes to become a unity. This is observable at an individual level, too. Any unacknowledged or under-recognized similarities/identities/differences between two or more entities will inevitably be used to justify segregation of those entities. The solution, as always, is to identify similarities/identities/differences in a cohesive manner - this is anathema to the totalitarian-authoritarian personality, who is usually pretty stubborn about enforcing, in totality, those under-acknowledged facets.

MichaelZuo 10mo ago
I don’t see how this addresses the issue of there being an underlying real reason? Of course the reason then subsquently can be inflated, conflated, mixed together strangely, contorted, etc… I’m not doubting that.
- MomsAVoxell 10mo ago
  The underlying reason is a lack of cultural fluidity, or in other words, an over-abundance of cultural rigidity, which manifests as a desire to be free of other cultures. The most effective antidote to totalitarian-authoritarianism is a one-way ticket to somewhere distant. German villages, as comfortable as they are, don’t really promote this antidote.
  - MichaelZuo 10mo ago
    > The underlying reason is a lack of cultural fluidity, or in other words, an over-abundance of cultural rigidity And how do you know this? What’s the actual argument for why that must the case?
    - MomsAVoxell 10mo ago
      The abundance of evidence that humans will fight to death to be the clean ones.
      - MichaelZuo 10mo ago
        Did you intend to reply to a different comment? This doesn’t seem relevant to making an argument for the claims in the quoted text.