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Agreed, it was just important to me to point it out, since staying within such a massive budget on such a long timeline is a rare achievement.

by fzeindl 10mo ago

bigbinary 10mo ago
Considering the original title is just the name of the railway, and I do not think “within budget” is editorializing, I think the commenter is being overly pedantic
- franciscop 10mo ago
  I opened the article expecting to see news about the budget and how they stayed within it, since that SEEMS like the biggest surprising news in a project like this. How is that overly pedantic?
  - tchalla 10mo ago
    I understand your expectation. That said, I think it's ok to add detail in commentary when the article doesn't mention it explicitly. So continuing to go upon the point that the article didn't mention the budget makes you seem as pedantic. There are non-English articles on the budget too. https://orf.at/stories/3414173/ https://orf.at/stories/3414173/
    - b112 10mo ago
      Their point was completely valid. HN policies are what help keep this place sane.
    - deleted 10mo ago
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- paulgerhardt 10mo ago
  I was curious about the forecasting success story here too. The German LOK article is better in this regard: https://www.lok-report.de/news/europa/item/62410-oesterreich-koralmbahn-punktlandung-bei-investitionskosten.html https://www.lok-report.de/news/europa/item/62410-oesterreich...
jfoster 10mo ago
You're using a strange definition of "within". It's 7% over.
- tremon 10mo ago
  €5.5 billion in 2005 is €8 billion in 2025, so it can be either over or under budget depending on how you amortize the costs over the construction period.
- fzeindl 10mo ago
  In a world where large infrastructure projects regularly exceed their budget by 100-1000%, 7% is huge. It is important to show people that that is possible in government projects. If you find a more concise way of saying „with unusually small overrun of it‘s budget“ tell me. Also there were sections added after the initial estimate.
  - Y_Y 10mo ago
    "only slightly over budget"
  - pestatije 10mo ago
    "almost" is the word
  - tomhow 10mo ago
    Does the site mention the budget and completion time/cost at all? I can't find it from a quick browse/search of the site. It's taking editorializing to a whole new level to add details that are not in the linked article or site at all. The right thing to do in this case is find the best source for this information (about the budget, schedule and completion time/cost) and make that the URL of the submission. Please email us the best links you know of about this (hn@ycombinator.com) and we'll consider updating the URL.
    - fzeindl 10mo ago
      The site doesn‘t mention it, I got that information from various german announcements. I fear there probably won‘t be an English announcement regarding the budget, though there will be many regarding the tunnel.

Agreed, it was just important to me to point it out, since staying within such a massive budget on such a long timeline is a rare achievement.

by fzeindl 10mo ago

Agreed, it was just important to me to point it out, since staying within such a massive budget on such a long timeline is a rare achievement.

bigbinary 10mo ago

Considering the original title is just the name of the railway, and I do not think “within budget” is editorializing, I think the commenter is being overly pedantic

franciscop 10mo ago
I opened the article expecting to see news about the budget and how they stayed within it, since that SEEMS like the biggest surprising news in a project like this. How is that overly pedantic?
- tchalla 10mo ago
  I understand your expectation. That said, I think it's ok to add detail in commentary when the article doesn't mention it explicitly. So continuing to go upon the point that the article didn't mention the budget makes you seem as pedantic. There are non-English articles on the budget too. https://orf.at/stories/3414173/ https://orf.at/stories/3414173/
  - b112 10mo ago
    Their point was completely valid. HN policies are what help keep this place sane.
  - deleted 10mo ago
    [deleted]
paulgerhardt 10mo ago
I was curious about the forecasting success story here too. The German LOK article is better in this regard: https://www.lok-report.de/news/europa/item/62410-oesterreich-koralmbahn-punktlandung-bei-investitionskosten.html https://www.lok-report.de/news/europa/item/62410-oesterreich...

jfoster 10mo ago

You're using a strange definition of "within". It's 7% over.

tremon 10mo ago
€5.5 billion in 2005 is €8 billion in 2025, so it can be either over or under budget depending on how you amortize the costs over the construction period.
fzeindl 10mo ago
In a world where large infrastructure projects regularly exceed their budget by 100-1000%, 7% is huge. It is important to show people that that is possible in government projects. If you find a more concise way of saying „with unusually small overrun of it‘s budget“ tell me. Also there were sections added after the initial estimate.
- Y_Y 10mo ago
  "only slightly over budget"
- pestatije 10mo ago
  "almost" is the word
- tomhow 10mo ago
  Does the site mention the budget and completion time/cost at all? I can't find it from a quick browse/search of the site. It's taking editorializing to a whole new level to add details that are not in the linked article or site at all. The right thing to do in this case is find the best source for this information (about the budget, schedule and completion time/cost) and make that the URL of the submission. Please email us the best links you know of about this (hn@ycombinator.com) and we'll consider updating the URL.
  - fzeindl 10mo ago
    The site doesn‘t mention it, I got that information from various german announcements. I fear there probably won‘t be an English announcement regarding the budget, though there will be many regarding the tunnel.