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> I'm sure NATO has drone swarms all over Russian bases right now I'm pretty sure NATO doesnt have drone swarms all over Russian territory right now.

• codedokode 11mo ago
  They don't even fly close to Russia in the Black Sea, I think, after an expensive US spy drone was involuntarily landed into the sea.
  • blitzar 11mo ago
    I would hazard a guess the last time a NATO member flew missions over Russia was when a miision went bad in 1960.
    • nephihaha 11mo ago
      Both sides have been chancing their arm most of my lifetime. We get reports of Russian planes and ships round here all the time. The west does it to them as well... and it is no secret that British and American folk have been involved in the Ukrainian conflict. It allows both militaries to justify their spending so it is mutually beneficial as well as being brinkmanship.
• nephihaha 11mo ago
  NATO has been buzzing the borders of Russia all my lifetime with aircraft erc and beyond (Gary Powers anyone?) I doubt they ever stopped and have moved onto drones by now. Even in Cold War Berlin each side tried to test out the limits of the other although the Red Army was allowed into a couple of places in West Berlin by agreement like a war memorial.