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It was a short-lived bug in a video game. There were research proposals that never went anywhere because it was concluded that the model would be a poor match f
by waterlesscloud 14y ago
It was a short-lived bug in a video game. There were research proposals that never went anywhere because it was concluded that the model would be a poor match for the real world.
Plenty of things happen every single day that affect millions and are covered in multiple world news sources. They don't have their own pages, so clearly that's not the standard.
- dangrossman 14y ago> There were research proposals that never went anywhere Multiple published research papers, not proposals. Over 600 Google Scholar results. It also made its way into several books.
- waterlesscloud 14y agoWhat were the findings of these published research papers?
- dangrossman 14y agoWe were discussing whether this event met Wikipedia's notability requirements. Those requirements are that the topic be 'worthy of notice' -- that it's been mentioned by more than one verifiable, third-party source. Clearly that requirement has been met and this event is notable. The fame, importance or popularity of the subject are not considerations for Wikipedia's notability requirement. Should you wish to discuss the event and the research it spawned, I'm sure you can find a discussion group for that. I'm not your research assistant, and I doubt the sincerity of your interest, given you dismissed these papers' existence outright mere hours ago.
- waterlesscloud 14y agoThe papers I have found were all proposals or investigations of the possibility of further research. You seemed to be saying there was actual research based on the incident, and I wondered if you had found something different. I assume you did not. Also, to directly quote the wikipedia page on Notability: "Notability is the property of being worthy of notice, having fame, or being considered to be of a high degree of interest, significance, or distinction."
- dangrossman 14y agoYou're quoting the wrong notability page. "Determining notability does not necessarily depend on things like fame, importance, or popularity" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability
- waterlesscloud 14y agoCutting the sentence off in the middle doesn't help your case. "Determining notability does not necessarily depend on things like fame, importance, or popularity—although those may enhance the acceptability of a subject that meets the guidelines explained below". I also note the page has been marked for merging, so I'm hardly alone in my opinion.
- dangrossman 14y agoTwo mentions in any medium make a topic notable for Wikipedia purposes. This event's article cites 19. The "notability police" wouldn't go near it. Why do you think I'm "making a case", or would need to? This discussion effectively ended hours ago, it's only continuing to muck up the real discussion on this story because you feel compelled to argue with me for some reason. If you feel the need to continue, tweet me or something, this pointless back-and-forth doesn't belong on HN.
- waterlesscloud 14y agoIt does take two, you know. I'll make one final point and then let it go. If you want the last word, it's all yours. Two mentions in any medium is definitely not the standard for notability on wikipedia. Read the very page you linked for confirmation of that, there's quite a bit more about the standard there.
- rhizome 14y agoThe Morris Worm was "short-lived" as well.
- macspoofing 14y agoI like that it's there.