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Sounds similar to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46203343 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46203343 in terms, that Google decides who survives and who

by p0w3n3d 11mo ago

Sounds similar to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46203343 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46203343 in terms, that Google decides who survives and who does not in business

cosmicgadget 11mo ago
Also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40970987 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40970987 https://gehrcke.de/2023/09/google-changes-recently-i-see-more-of-discovered-currently-not-indexed/ https://gehrcke.de/2023/09/google-changes-recently-i-see-mor... The wrong RSS thing may have just tipped the scales over to Google not caring.
cyberrock 11mo ago
In the past I've heard that TripAdvisor has 60% market share for local reviews in the UK. Did Google Maps really climb that quickly? Are Instagram and TikTok not shaping tastes in London too? I feel like she might be assigning too much power to it just because that's what she used. That's not to say I don't have gripes with how Google Maps works, but I just don't know why the other factors were not considered.
- leoedin 11mo ago
  I don’t think I’ve met anyone in the UK who routinely checked tripadvisor for anything! I just checked a few local restaurants to me in London that opened in the last few years, and the ratio of reviews is about 16:1 for google maps. It looks like stuff that’s been around longer has a much better ratio towards trip advisor though. Almost certainly Instagram/tiktok are though. I know a few places which have been ruined by becoming TikTok tourist hotspots.
  - dazc 11mo ago
    'I don’t think I’ve met anyone in the UK who routinely checked tripadvisor for anything!' Counterpoint: I have met people in the UK who's lives revolve around doing nothing but.
  - paganel 11mo ago
    Not in the UK, but from Romania, I last checked Tripadvisor back in 2012, and that was for a holiday stay in the Greek islands. Google Maps has eaten the lunch of almost all of the entrants in this space, and I say that having worked for a local/Romanian "Google places"-type of company, back in 2010-2012 (after which Google Places came in, ~~stole~~ scrapped some of our data and some of our direct competitor's data and put us both out of that business).
    - jfil 11mo ago
      I'd be curious to read that whole story of Google putting the conpany out of business. Would you consider writing about it in a post?

by p0w3n3d 11mo ago

Sounds similar to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46203343 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46203343 in terms, that Google decides who survives and who does not in business

cosmicgadget 11mo ago

Also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40970987 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40970987 https://gehrcke.de/2023/09/google-changes-recently-i-see-more-of-discovered-currently-not-indexed/ https://gehrcke.de/2023/09/google-changes-recently-i-see-mor... The wrong RSS thing may have just tipped the scales over to Google not caring.

cyberrock 11mo ago

In the past I've heard that TripAdvisor has 60% market share for local reviews in the UK. Did Google Maps really climb that quickly? Are Instagram and TikTok not shaping tastes in London too? I feel like she might be assigning too much power to it just because that's what she used. That's not to say I don't have gripes with how Google Maps works, but I just don't know why the other factors were not considered.

leoedin 11mo ago
I don’t think I’ve met anyone in the UK who routinely checked tripadvisor for anything! I just checked a few local restaurants to me in London that opened in the last few years, and the ratio of reviews is about 16:1 for google maps. It looks like stuff that’s been around longer has a much better ratio towards trip advisor though. Almost certainly Instagram/tiktok are though. I know a few places which have been ruined by becoming TikTok tourist hotspots.
- dazc 11mo ago
  'I don’t think I’ve met anyone in the UK who routinely checked tripadvisor for anything!' Counterpoint: I have met people in the UK who's lives revolve around doing nothing but.
- paganel 11mo ago
  Not in the UK, but from Romania, I last checked Tripadvisor back in 2012, and that was for a holiday stay in the Greek islands. Google Maps has eaten the lunch of almost all of the entrants in this space, and I say that having worked for a local/Romanian "Google places"-type of company, back in 2010-2012 (after which Google Places came in, ~~stole~~ scrapped some of our data and some of our direct competitor's data and put us both out of that business).
  - jfil 11mo ago
    I'd be curious to read that whole story of Google putting the conpany out of business. Would you consider writing about it in a post?