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We’re talking about Israel, not Syria.
by sporkxrocket 10mo ago
We’re talking about Israel, not Syria.
- tptacek 10mo agoIt's equally true in Israel, where Hezbollah fired tens of thousands of rockets indiscriminately, killing, among other things, a Druze children's soccer team in the Golan Heights. You can read this on Amnesty (no friend of Israel's) if you want. Again: it's hard to understand where you could getting this notion that Hezbollah attacks are highly targeted from. That is anything but their operational signature.
- sporkxrocket 10mo agoI posted plenty of videos in my other reply to you of Hezbollah attacks on Israel. They’re very clearly targeted.
- tptacek 10mo agoThey fire guided munitions at Israeli troop positions. They fire unguided rockets and mortar shells into Israeli towns. A video of a targeted Hezbollah strike doesn't illustrate anything at all; everybody points the gun when it's useful to do so, it's what you do when you don't have a combatant target that tells the actual tale. I can't say enough how odd it is to bring this kind of take into a discussion about Hezbollah. Note that I'm not making the case that Israel is fastidious about avoiding civilian casualties; that would be an unproductive argument to attempt on this thread. You have found one of the few arguments that are even less productive. https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/lebanon-hezbollahs-rocket-attacks-northern-israel-must-be-investigated-likely-war https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/lebanon-hezbollahs...
- sporkxrocket 10mo agoAny collateral damage here is orders of magnitude less than what Israel has done. There’s no debating that.
- tptacek 10mo agoI don't have to debate that point, because it addresses an argument I didn't make. The problem is how deeply unmoored your argument is from reality. Exactly why is it that you believe Hezbollah's attacks are characterized by a high degree of targeting? It's clearly not true. Can you explain the logic and the sourcing you used to make that claim?
- sporkxrocket 10mo agoI already explained it with video evidence. I’m not sure why you hate Hezbollah so much, but I don’t share your animus. In fact I’d consider them an ally from an enemy of my enemy perspective. You don’t have to agree, but that’s my POV.
- tptacek 10mo agoYou didn't, at all. I didn't look at the videos you provided; I simply stipulate that they're real and depict what you say they depict. That doesn't demonstrate anything at all about Hezbollah's rules of engagement. When they have a clear firing solution on an IDF tank, they take the shot? Ok. And? At the point where you're declaring Hezbollah a moral ally, I think the conversation has run to its logical terminus. Ask the Sunni Arabs in Syria how allied they feel with Hezbollah.
- UltraSane 10mo agoIt isn't collateral damage. Hezbollah's goal is to kill Israeli civilians.
- sporkxrocket 10mo ago[flagged]
- bigyabai 10mo agoUnfortunately, the IDF also doctrinally enshrines killing Israelis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive Accountability on both sides is needed, for the violence to end.
- UltraSane 10mo agoThey are targeted at Israel civilians.
- sporkxrocket 10mo ago[flagged]
- coldtea 10mo ago>It's equally true in Israel, where Hezbollah fired tens of thousands of rockets indiscriminately, killing, among other things, a Druze children's soccer team in the Golan Heights. An innocent kid was killed in this conflict? Thank God the other side didn't do that 20,000x more - then it would have been a real tragedy! Especially if unlike some indiscriminate firing of crude rockets, they did it purposefully, with state of the art arms and monitoring systems.
- tptacek 10mo agoI have no idea what you're trying to say here. I think you're trying to weigh Israel's actions against those of Hezbollah's? You're not going to get anywhere, rhetorically, with me doing that, because I'm no supporter of Israel's.
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