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Why no grok 4.1 reasoning?

• sanex 10mo ago
  Do people other than Elon fans use grok? Honest question. I've never tried it.
  • mac-attack 10mo ago
    I can't understand why people would trust a CEO that regularly lies about product timelines, product features, his own personal life, etc. And that's before politicizing his entire kingdom by literally becoming a part of government and one of the larger donations of the current administration.
    • lkjdsklf 10mo ago
      If we stopped using products of every company that had a CEO that lied about their products, we’d all be sitting in caves staring at the dirt
    • fatata123 10mo ago
      Because not everyone makes their decisions through the prism of politics
    • delaminator 10mo ago
      You’re not narrowing it down.
  • bumling 10mo ago
    I dislike Musk, and use Grok. I find it most useful for analyzing text to help check if there's anything I've missed in my own reading. Having it built in to Twitter is convenient and it has a generous free tier.
  • buu700 10mo ago
    I use Grok pretty heavily, and Elon doesn't factor into it any more than Sam and Sundar do when I use GPT and Gemini. A few use cases where it really shines: * Research and planning * Writing complex isolated modules, particularly when the task depends on using a third-party API correctly (or even choosing an API/library at its own discretion) * Reasoning through complicated logic, particularly in cases that benefit from its eagerness to throw a ton of inference at problems where other LLMs might give a shallower or less accurate answer without more prodding I'll often fire off an off-the-cuff message from my phone to have Grok research some obscure topic that involves finding very specific data and crunching a bunch of numbers, or write a script for some random thing that I would previously never have bothered to spend time automating, and it'll churn for ~5 minutes on reasoning before giving me exactly what I wanted with few or no mistakes. As far as development, I personally get a lot of mileage out of collaborating with Grok and Gemini on planning/architecture/specs and coding with GPT. (I've stopped using Claude since GPT seems interchangeable at lower cost.) For reference, I'm only referring to the Grok chatbot right now. I've never actually tried Grok through agentic coding tooling.
  • jbm 10mo ago
    I use a few AIs together to examine the same code base. I find Grok better than some of the Chinese ones I've used, but it isn't in the same league as Claude or Codex.
  • ralusek 10mo ago
    Only thing I use grok for is if there is a current event/meme that I keep seeing referenced and I don't understand, it's good at pulling from tweets
  • fatata123 10mo ago
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  • wdroz 10mo ago
    Unlike openai, you can use the latest grok models without verifying your organization and giving your ID.
  • sz4kerto 10mo ago
    I'm using Gemini in general, but Grok too. That's because sometimes Gemini Thinking is too slow, but Fast can get confused a lot. Grok strikes a nice balance between being quite smart (not Gemini 3 Pro level, but close) and very fast.
  • scrollop 10mo ago
    I hate the guy, however grok scores high on arc-2 so it would be silly to not at least rank it.
  • rsanek 10mo ago
    it's the biggest model on OpenRouter, even if you exclude free tier usage https://openrouter.ai/state-of-ai https://openrouter.ai/state-of-ai
    • irthomasthomas 10mo ago
      Roleplay is the largest use-case on openrouter.
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