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I skimmed the linked story and I still don’t really know what POP!_OS is. They are using the Linux kernel and wrote their own desktop environment, but what’s in

by criddell 11mo ago

I skimmed the linked story and I still don’t really know what POP!_OS is. They are using the Linux kernel and wrote their own desktop environment, but what’s in between that? Does it include all the GNU system tools? Is there a lot of software that takes advantage of the COSMIC desktop environment? Do they have an App Store? Is it closer to something like Ubuntu or is it more like Android?

jsk2600 11mo ago
It's based on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS, with their own DE
- dsego 11mo ago
  Does it use snap packages?
  - cguess 11mo ago
    yes
  - akdor1154 11mo ago
    They attempt to avoid them, though snaps are still available if you wish. Flatpak is installed by default and used by their app store, and Firefox is packaged as a deb so you can avoid the snap. I consider it a deshittified Ubuntu.
    - KronisLV 11mo ago
      > I consider it a deshittified Ubuntu. This is more or less what I have used Linux Mint for (their Cinnamon desktop version is pretty okay, also used the XFCE one). Nice to have more options!
      - panick21_ 11mo ago
        They are vendor of hardware, so much more aggressive about pushing new hardware support.
- criddell 11mo ago
  Based on Ubuntu? So is it basically Ubuntu with Gnome removed and COSMIC added? How compatible are the two OS's? They show icons for Steam, Chrome, Firefox, Zoom, etc... Does that mean they are maintaining their own fork of those applications built for COSMIC?
  - mghackerlady 11mo ago
    No? They can run on cosmic, just like they can run on any other desktop. It's a linux distro, it does linux distro things and happens to be built on ubuntu. What part of this are you not getting? Remember when Ubuntu made Unity because they were pissed at the GNOME people? That's what System76 did, they got mad at GNOME because GNOME didn't like how much they were messing with GNOME
    - criddell 11mo ago
      I'm not super familiar with the history of GNOME, KDE, or COSMIC and I've never used COSMIC and I haven't been able to see into their app store to see what apps are available. The version of Chrome (for example) that Google distributes uses GTK which is GNOME, no? So I was wondering if System76 forked that and made a version that uses the COSMIC API.
      - jsk2600 11mo ago
        You do not need to have GNOME in order to run GTK apps - Pop_OS ships with GTK/QT libraries so all apps works as on Ubuntu.
        criddell 11mo ago
        Who wants to run multiple widget sets though? You lose any semblance of your system having a native look and feel.
        lillecarl 11mo ago
        I want to run applications written with both Qt and GTK. I do not care much about "look and feel"
mghackerlady 11mo ago
It's ubuntu with their own desktop and app store (kinda like mint) its also known for being the best linux experience for nvidia users. It's designed for power users and gamers
beAbU 11mo ago
The fact that the version is 24.04 LTS is a dead giveaway that it's ubuntu under the hood. I thought this was pretty obvious.

jsk2600 11mo ago

It's based on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS, with their own DE

dsego 11mo ago
Does it use snap packages?
- cguess 11mo ago
  yes
- akdor1154 11mo ago
  They attempt to avoid them, though snaps are still available if you wish. Flatpak is installed by default and used by their app store, and Firefox is packaged as a deb so you can avoid the snap. I consider it a deshittified Ubuntu.
  - KronisLV 11mo ago
    > I consider it a deshittified Ubuntu. This is more or less what I have used Linux Mint for (their Cinnamon desktop version is pretty okay, also used the XFCE one). Nice to have more options!
    - panick21_ 11mo ago
      They are vendor of hardware, so much more aggressive about pushing new hardware support.
criddell 11mo ago
Based on Ubuntu? So is it basically Ubuntu with Gnome removed and COSMIC added? How compatible are the two OS's? They show icons for Steam, Chrome, Firefox, Zoom, etc... Does that mean they are maintaining their own fork of those applications built for COSMIC?
- mghackerlady 11mo ago
  No? They can run on cosmic, just like they can run on any other desktop. It's a linux distro, it does linux distro things and happens to be built on ubuntu. What part of this are you not getting? Remember when Ubuntu made Unity because they were pissed at the GNOME people? That's what System76 did, they got mad at GNOME because GNOME didn't like how much they were messing with GNOME
  - criddell 11mo ago
    I'm not super familiar with the history of GNOME, KDE, or COSMIC and I've never used COSMIC and I haven't been able to see into their app store to see what apps are available. The version of Chrome (for example) that Google distributes uses GTK which is GNOME, no? So I was wondering if System76 forked that and made a version that uses the COSMIC API.
    - jsk2600 11mo ago
      You do not need to have GNOME in order to run GTK apps - Pop_OS ships with GTK/QT libraries so all apps works as on Ubuntu.
      - criddell 11mo ago
        Who wants to run multiple widget sets though? You lose any semblance of your system having a native look and feel.
        lillecarl 11mo ago
        I want to run applications written with both Qt and GTK. I do not care much about "look and feel"

mghackerlady 11mo ago

It's ubuntu with their own desktop and app store (kinda like mint) its also known for being the best linux experience for nvidia users. It's designed for power users and gamers

beAbU 11mo ago

The fact that the version is 24.04 LTS is a dead giveaway that it's ubuntu under the hood. I thought this was pretty obvious.