> I'm citing a medical doctor and clinical psychologist I'll give you that one, because although technically you're not citing it here, you do elsewhere in the

> I'm citing a medical doctor and clinical psychologist I'll give you that one, because although technically you're not citing it here, you do elsewhere in the thread. > you're saying "no it isn't" I appreciate that you might not like those words, but they're literally your words, so. > This is some Puritanical suffering-culture, or some one-upmanship manliness culture. Pfft. I agree that quicker results are better, all other things being equal, but that's all very facile. > The fix is trace that loop and find the sticking point, Not everything is like that.