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Ah...remember the days of 350.org? How cute that seems now. Do you all realize how catastrophic this is?

by Noaidi 11mo ago

Workaccount2 11mo ago
When it actually snowed in winter? Yes, in fact I do remember that.
- Noaidi 11mo ago
  Weather is not climate.
  - Workaccount2 11mo ago
    Over many years, yes, that is in fact climate.
    - Capricorn2481 11mo ago
      Not in the manner or scale you're suggesting.
- timerol 11mo ago
  You're gonna have to locate yourself for this comment to make any sense. Plenty of places still get snow regularly in winter, and nothing humans can do will change that
breakingrules3 11mo ago
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renewiltord 11mo ago
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- jermaustin1 11mo ago
  Nice strawman :) SF NIMBY aren't environmentalists, they are obstructionists. Now for a true scotsmanism - actual environmentalists overwhelmingly support nuclear power, expansion of wind and solar, and geothermal where it is easy to get to, and not too destructive to drill for. I've not surveyed the population that travels to burningman, but I doubt they are all against sustainable energy, but I've never been, so I don't know. Environmentalist is a discipline, not a personality type.
  - renewiltord 11mo ago
    Strawman? Hmm, let's just do a Google. The top US environmental organizations: 1. Sierra Club 2. WWF 3. 350 4. Nature Conservancy 5. Environmental Defense Fund Okay, now let's do "$org nuclear energy": https://www.sierraclub.org/nuclear-free https://www.sierraclub.org/nuclear-free https://wwfeu.awsassets.panda.org/downloads/wwf_position_statement_nuclear_power.pdf https://wwfeu.awsassets.panda.org/downloads/wwf_position_sta... https://350.org/solutions-series-nuclear/ https://350.org/solutions-series-nuclear/ https://www.nature.org/content/dam/tnc/nature/en/documents/ChartingaCleanEnergyFuture2023.pdf https://www.nature.org/content/dam/tnc/nature/en/documents/C... (pro-nuclear, these must be the only Real Environmentalists) The EDF opposes nuclear energy projects in practice https://environmentalprogress.org/edf https://environmentalprogress.org/edf but is otherwise generally ambivalent in statements Therefore, I have to say that a quick survey of the data shows that I am correct. Feel free to use an LLM agent to replicate this human analysis. Environmentalists appear to be like Communists. Supposedly in favour of some idea, but it appears strangely that they keep doing the opposite thing. I'm sure Real Environmentalism Hasn't Been Tried Yet.

Ah...remember the days of 350.org? How cute that seems now. Do you all realize how catastrophic this is?

by Noaidi 11mo ago

Ah...remember the days of 350.org? How cute that seems now. Do you all realize how catastrophic this is?

Workaccount2 11mo ago

When it actually snowed in winter? Yes, in fact I do remember that.

Noaidi 11mo ago
Weather is not climate.
- Workaccount2 11mo ago
  Over many years, yes, that is in fact climate.
  - Capricorn2481 11mo ago
    Not in the manner or scale you're suggesting.
timerol 11mo ago
You're gonna have to locate yourself for this comment to make any sense. Plenty of places still get snow regularly in winter, and nothing humans can do will change that

breakingrules3 11mo ago

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renewiltord 11mo ago

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jermaustin1 11mo ago
Nice strawman :) SF NIMBY aren't environmentalists, they are obstructionists. Now for a true scotsmanism - actual environmentalists overwhelmingly support nuclear power, expansion of wind and solar, and geothermal where it is easy to get to, and not too destructive to drill for. I've not surveyed the population that travels to burningman, but I doubt they are all against sustainable energy, but I've never been, so I don't know. Environmentalist is a discipline, not a personality type.
- renewiltord 11mo ago
  Strawman? Hmm, let's just do a Google. The top US environmental organizations: 1. Sierra Club 2. WWF 3. 350 4. Nature Conservancy 5. Environmental Defense Fund Okay, now let's do "$org nuclear energy": https://www.sierraclub.org/nuclear-free https://www.sierraclub.org/nuclear-free https://wwfeu.awsassets.panda.org/downloads/wwf_position_statement_nuclear_power.pdf https://wwfeu.awsassets.panda.org/downloads/wwf_position_sta... https://350.org/solutions-series-nuclear/ https://350.org/solutions-series-nuclear/ https://www.nature.org/content/dam/tnc/nature/en/documents/ChartingaCleanEnergyFuture2023.pdf https://www.nature.org/content/dam/tnc/nature/en/documents/C... (pro-nuclear, these must be the only Real Environmentalists) The EDF opposes nuclear energy projects in practice https://environmentalprogress.org/edf https://environmentalprogress.org/edf but is otherwise generally ambivalent in statements Therefore, I have to say that a quick survey of the data shows that I am correct. Feel free to use an LLM agent to replicate this human analysis. Environmentalists appear to be like Communists. Supposedly in favour of some idea, but it appears strangely that they keep doing the opposite thing. I'm sure Real Environmentalism Hasn't Been Tried Yet.