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This reminds me of the equally-doomed idea during the '60s to build underwater homes.

ivankirigin 18y ago
Underwater is much hard than seasteading. I wouldn't call them equally doomed at all. The free state project mentioned is an indication that this is actually viable. They want thousands of people to move to New Hampshire to change the state to be more libertarian. 700 already have. I think that means you can get a few hundred people to move to a man made island, if the conditions on the island were acceptable. The best outcome would be a confederation of city states that only interact via trading and mutual defense. There is essentially zero competition in government, and this would change that.
- byrneseyeview 18y ago
  The free state project mentioned is an indication that this is actually viable. They want thousands of people to move to New Hampshire to change the state to be more libertarian. 700 already have. The fact that they can almost get people to move to a different state is evidence that they can get people to move to new man-made islands? Seasteading would be great, but actually getting it started looks really difficult.
  - ivankirigin 18y ago
    In my understanding, the islands are much smaller. I think 100 people would be enough, though that would largely depend on the design.
    - byrneseyeview 18y ago
      That's true, but the investment per person is much higher; you don't have to build land and protect it from pirates in New Hampshire.
      - olefoo 18y ago
        You're calling your libertarian credentials into question there; a _real_ libertarian (for extreme values of real) would reply that you do, it's just that in New Hampshire the pirates call themselves the IRS and the Department of Revenue.
- quoderat 18y ago
  I would, and did, call them equally-doomed. Barring global calamity, I can confidently predict that not a single one of these will exist in a decade.
  - nazgulnarsil 18y ago
    care to put your money where your mouth is in a prediction market?
    - patio11 18y ago
      If he's paying taxes, he already has, now hasn't he.
ryanwaggoner 18y ago
From what I understand, something like 1 in 4 homes in America are underwater right now :)

Underwater is much hard than seasteading. I wouldn't call them equally doomed at all. The free state project mentioned is an indication that this is actually viable. They want thousands of people to move to New Hampshire to change the state to be more libertarian. 700 already have. I think that means you can get a few hundred people to move to a man made island, if the conditions on the island were acceptable. The best outcome would be a confederation of city states that only interact via trading and mutual defense. There is essentially zero competition in government, and this would change that.

byrneseyeview 18y ago
The free state project mentioned is an indication that this is actually viable. They want thousands of people to move to New Hampshire to change the state to be more libertarian. 700 already have. The fact that they can almost get people to move to a different state is evidence that they can get people to move to new man-made islands? Seasteading would be great, but actually getting it started looks really difficult.
- ivankirigin 18y ago
  In my understanding, the islands are much smaller. I think 100 people would be enough, though that would largely depend on the design.
  - byrneseyeview 18y ago
    That's true, but the investment per person is much higher; you don't have to build land and protect it from pirates in New Hampshire.
    - olefoo 18y ago
      You're calling your libertarian credentials into question there; a _real_ libertarian (for extreme values of real) would reply that you do, it's just that in New Hampshire the pirates call themselves the IRS and the Department of Revenue.
quoderat 18y ago
I would, and did, call them equally-doomed. Barring global calamity, I can confidently predict that not a single one of these will exist in a decade.
- nazgulnarsil 18y ago
  care to put your money where your mouth is in a prediction market?
  - patio11 18y ago
    If he's paying taxes, he already has, now hasn't he.

ryanwaggoner 18y ago

From what I understand, something like 1 in 4 homes in America are underwater right now :)