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All those services are wall-gardened so without an account, you already cannot consume the contents.

• skrebbel 10mo ago
  That’s a choice made by those services. They can change it.
  • re-thc 10mo ago
    > That’s a choice made by those services. They can change it. Why do these services have to lose? That's a choice made by this country's government. They can change it.
    • skrebbel 10mo ago
      They’ll lose revenue in Australia. If more governments copy this move, they’ll lose revenue there too.
      • re-thc 10mo ago
        > If more governments copy this move, they’ll lose revenue there too. That's like saying every government should copy the new tariffs too. If only it was so simple... > They’ll lose revenue in Australia. Why is it always 1-way? Australia can also lose people and lose people's interest.
        • skrebbel 10mo ago
          Lol you think people are going to leave Australia because their kids cant go on Tiktok?
          • johnisgood 10mo ago
            Well, who knows what they will be doing if it is not Tiktok. Hopefully they will pick up a book, but doubtful. They need a way to communicate with their peers.
            • throaway123213 10mo ago
              Families aren't going to move because their teens can't use social media.
              • johnisgood 10mo ago
                I am not sure I understand how it is relevant to my comment.
            • 5upplied_demand 10mo ago
              I'm not seeing how this stops kids from communicating with their peers. That seems like a bad-faith argument as they can send an SMS, make phone calls, send emails, meet in-person, play video games, etc. The things many of us grew up doing with our friends.
              • johnisgood 10mo ago
                Yes, I did those things in 2000. Except when I look at the city I grew up in, it is no longer safe for kids, and kids do not even go outside anymore, and I do not think social media is at fault here. BTW SMS and phone calls cost money. Sending e-mails was not a thing even when I was a kid, 25 years ago. Playing video games, yeah well, that may be the only thing where they may communicate. Except that is going down in the shitters too these days. Say "shit" or "fuck" (especially) and get banned from chat for days.
                • 5upplied_demand 10mo ago
                  > Except when I look at the city I grew up in, it is no longer safe for kids, and kids do not even go outside anymore Which city? I ask because I am raising my kids in Chicago. It is far safer than when I was a child and I was under the impression that most cities are far safer. We also have plenty of kids playing outside in our neighborhood. I'm not saying you are wrong, but my lived experience is significantly different. > BTW SMS and phone calls cost money. That depends on where you are and what network you are using. That same would go for using social media sites which require internet connection. > Sending e-mails was not a thing even when I was a kid, 25 years ago. I was also a kid 25 years ago and we absolutely sent emails.
• texuf 10mo ago
  I feel like people are either arguing in bad faith, or we’re trying to talk to fish about the water. Its so obvious to me that people are going to get their identities stolen and the internet is going to get so much worse that I can’t understand how someone would think otherwise.
• BlueTemplar 10mo ago
  No, about half of them (mostly) aren't : Reddit, YouTube, Twitch... (That's also not what «walled garden» means. You're thinking about «deep web».)