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I am shocked at the discourse over this. I'm either ahead of the curve or behind; but its undeniable that AI can and does write most the code. Not trivial, if

by nadermx 10mo ago

I am shocked at the discourse over this. I'm either ahead of the curve or behind; but its undeniable that AI can and does write most the code. Not trivial, if you spend some time and dig deep into simple appearing web apps like https://microphonetest.com https://microphonetest.com or https://internetspeed.my https://internetspeed.my you'd be amazed at how fast they went from mvp to full feature. Trivial to think anyone could pull off something like that in hours.

no_wizard 10mo ago
Looking at both of these I'm struggling to understand why AI exponentially increased the productivity and quality of either of these examples. Especially since I don't see open source code anywhere, I can't get a good gauge of quality either. I've built tools like this on the web in the past. They were never more than a weekends worth of work to begin with. I am looking for exponential increases, with quality to back it up.
- nadermx 10mo ago
  Tools like this in the past? Open source isn't even necessary to prove the point, you want to see exponential increase, closing half an open source projects and year long pending bugs in span of minutes? https://github.com/nadermx/backgroundremover/commits?author=nadermx https://github.com/nadermx/backgroundremover/commits?author=...
  - joshribakoff 10mo ago
    This commit graph seemingly shows that they fixed a couple bugs over like a week. Period that involves changing like six lines of code. That code has no abstractions no structure and several problems you could poke holes in. While it may work and that’s great for whoever benefits, this isn’t very convincing as I can currently write more than six lines of code per day by hand
rester324 10mo ago
Internetspeed is a 3 years old app. So what exactly are you talking about?
- nadermx 10mo ago
  This is what you remember https://web.archive.org/web/20231106214450/https://www.internetspeed.my/ https://web.archive.org/web/20231106214450/https://www.inter.... What you see now, I did in an afternoon with AI; it's monumental. No way I could of done that in that time. At all.
  - spaqin 10mo ago
    Yeah but what was wrong with the previous implementation that it had to be redone?
    - suzzer99 10mo ago
      And why would I need to log in to test my internet speed?
      - nadermx 10mo ago
        Its not anything was wrong with it. It was more an excersize in adding utilities and features to see how far and fast it can go with a few prompts. And what if you want historical speed tests for the year? Need to store that data some where. If anything its futile in either regard, but one just feels more fun.
irishcoffee 10mo ago
I feel like comments like this don’t consider non webdev software engineering.
windexh8er 10mo ago
So, just an advertisement for what you built? As for the apps, what's so great about them? I'm genuinely curious. With respect to the microphone test site I don't need it as my OS provides everything I need for this and I also don't trust your site (that's just by default for what you're asking to have access or my machine). As for the speed test, OK? There are far better options that already exist and are fully open source. Building things that are trivial, or already exist aren't exciting. It's great that you feel you went from MVP to "full feature". But IMO both of these are MVPs as they stand. They're not worth much to anyone but you, most likely. The final thing I'll say is both of these examples have the vibe coded look. It's just like text, images and audio now: AI content is easy to pick out. I'd gather things will get better, but for now there's low likelihood I'm interacting with these in any meaningful way and zero chance I'm buying anything from sites like these.
- nadermx 10mo ago
  These offer nothing but free services. Even if they have a vibe coding feel. The ctr is dismal anyways from HN. Its simply astonishing the rate these allow of development, yet it seems the vast amount of people don't see it. Crazy
  - windexh8er 10mo ago
    No offense, but the world with AI slop everywhere isn't everyone's utopia.
    - nadermx 10mo ago
      Building your own utopia is now ever more achievable than I think any other time in human history. Perhaps my examples aren't as stellar as what's possible to achieve. But I only use those as simple examples, there are far better, made by many others whom don't comment on this forum.
      - windexh8er 10mo ago
        > Building your own utopia is now ever more achievable than I think any other time in human history. The problem I have with this type of perspective is that it's so myopic you don't seem to understand this is not even remotely anything I'd consider a "utopia". Some vibe-coded AI apps do not solve for that IMO. If that's all it takes for you then I say: enjoy.
anematode 10mo ago
I want to believe that this is satire
dominotw 10mo ago
is anyone paying for this shit? whats the point of this.

by nadermx 10mo ago

no_wizard 10mo ago

Looking at both of these I'm struggling to understand why AI exponentially increased the productivity and quality of either of these examples. Especially since I don't see open source code anywhere, I can't get a good gauge of quality either. I've built tools like this on the web in the past. They were never more than a weekends worth of work to begin with. I am looking for exponential increases, with quality to back it up.

nadermx 10mo ago
Tools like this in the past? Open source isn't even necessary to prove the point, you want to see exponential increase, closing half an open source projects and year long pending bugs in span of minutes? https://github.com/nadermx/backgroundremover/commits?author=nadermx https://github.com/nadermx/backgroundremover/commits?author=...
- joshribakoff 10mo ago
  This commit graph seemingly shows that they fixed a couple bugs over like a week. Period that involves changing like six lines of code. That code has no abstractions no structure and several problems you could poke holes in. While it may work and that’s great for whoever benefits, this isn’t very convincing as I can currently write more than six lines of code per day by hand

rester324 10mo ago

Internetspeed is a 3 years old app. So what exactly are you talking about?

nadermx 10mo ago
This is what you remember https://web.archive.org/web/20231106214450/https://www.internetspeed.my/ https://web.archive.org/web/20231106214450/https://www.inter.... What you see now, I did in an afternoon with AI; it's monumental. No way I could of done that in that time. At all.
- spaqin 10mo ago
  Yeah but what was wrong with the previous implementation that it had to be redone?
  - suzzer99 10mo ago
    And why would I need to log in to test my internet speed?
    - nadermx 10mo ago
      Its not anything was wrong with it. It was more an excersize in adding utilities and features to see how far and fast it can go with a few prompts. And what if you want historical speed tests for the year? Need to store that data some where. If anything its futile in either regard, but one just feels more fun.

irishcoffee 10mo ago

I feel like comments like this don’t consider non webdev software engineering.

windexh8er 10mo ago

So, just an advertisement for what you built? As for the apps, what's so great about them? I'm genuinely curious. With respect to the microphone test site I don't need it as my OS provides everything I need for this and I also don't trust your site (that's just by default for what you're asking to have access or my machine). As for the speed test, OK? There are far better options that already exist and are fully open source. Building things that are trivial, or already exist aren't exciting. It's great that you feel you went from MVP to "full feature". But IMO both of these are MVPs as they stand. They're not worth much to anyone but you, most likely. The final thing I'll say is both of these examples have the vibe coded look. It's just like text, images and audio now: AI content is easy to pick out. I'd gather things will get better, but for now there's low likelihood I'm interacting with these in any meaningful way and zero chance I'm buying anything from sites like these.

nadermx 10mo ago
These offer nothing but free services. Even if they have a vibe coding feel. The ctr is dismal anyways from HN. Its simply astonishing the rate these allow of development, yet it seems the vast amount of people don't see it. Crazy
- windexh8er 10mo ago
  No offense, but the world with AI slop everywhere isn't everyone's utopia.
  - nadermx 10mo ago
    Building your own utopia is now ever more achievable than I think any other time in human history. Perhaps my examples aren't as stellar as what's possible to achieve. But I only use those as simple examples, there are far better, made by many others whom don't comment on this forum.
    - windexh8er 10mo ago
      > Building your own utopia is now ever more achievable than I think any other time in human history. The problem I have with this type of perspective is that it's so myopic you don't seem to understand this is not even remotely anything I'd consider a "utopia". Some vibe-coded AI apps do not solve for that IMO. If that's all it takes for you then I say: enjoy.

anematode 10mo ago

I want to believe that this is satire

dominotw 10mo ago

is anyone paying for this shit? whats the point of this.