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I am not a Redditor, but RES sounds like it would increase the ‘echo-chamber’ effect, rather than improving one’s understanding of contributors’ calibration.
by nickff 10mo ago
I am not a Redditor, but RES sounds like it would increase the ‘echo-chamber’ effect, rather than improving one’s understanding of contributors’ calibration.
- mistercheph 10mo agoit depends on if you vote based on the quality of contribution to the discussion or based on how much you agree/disagree.
- miki123211 10mo agoI don't think you can change user behavior like this. You can give them a "venting sink" though. Instead of having a downvote button that just downvotes, have it pop up a little menu asking for a downvote reason, with "spam" and "disagree" as options. You could then weigh downvotes by which option was selected, along with an algorithm to discover "user honesty" based on whether their downvotes correlate with others or just with the people on their end of the political spectrum, a la Birdwatch.
- morshu9001 10mo agoYou can't change it for other users, only for yourself, which is what the original comment about the extension said.
- modeless 10mo agoReddit's current structure very much produces an echo chamber with only one main prevailing view. If everyone used an extension like this I would expect it to increase overall diversity of opinion on the site, as things that conflict with the main echo chamber view could still thrive in their own communities rather than getting downvoted with the actual spam.
- XorNot 10mo agoHacker News structure is identical though. Topics invite different demographics and downvotes suppress unpopular opinions. The front page shows most up voted stories. It's the same system.
- modeless 10mo agoHN's moderation and ranking is better. But there's definitely an echo chamber effect here too.
- morshu9001 10mo agoHN has some built-in ways to reduce this, like not allowing everyone to downvote everything.
- PunchyHamster 10mo agoMore than having exact same system but with any random reader voting ? I'd say as long as you don't do "I disagree therefore I downvote" it would probably be more accurate than having essentially same voting system driven by randoms like reddit/HN already does
- intended 10mo agoEcho chambers will always result on social media. I don't think you can come up with a format that will not result in consolidated blocs.
- baq 10mo agoEcho chamber of rational, thoughtful and truthful speakers is what I’m looking for in Internet forums.
- jrmg 10mo agoThat’s what everyone living in an echo chamber (and especially one of their own creation) thinks they’re in.
- baq 10mo agoI don't think I'm in any is my problem (HN is better than most, doesn't mean it's good in absolute terms...)
- XorNot 10mo ago"you're in an echo chamber" is one of the most frightfully overused opinions.
- ssl-3 10mo agoThe expression is an echo chamber in and of itself; it is self-fulfilling prophecy.
- red-iron-pine 10mo agoflat earth creationists would describe their colleagues the same way. a group of them certainly is an echo chamber; why isn't your view?
- ahf8Aithaex7Nai 10mo agoHe doesn't deny that his point of view forms an echo chamber.
- xmprt 10mo agoAn echo chamber is a product of your own creation. If you're willing to upvote people who disagree with your and actively seek out opposite takes to be genuinely curious about, then you're probably not in an echo chamber. The tools for controlling your feed are reducing on social media like Instagram, TikTok, Youtube, etc., but simply saying that you follow and respect the opinions of a select group doesn't necessarily mean you're forming an echo chamber. This is different from something like flat earth/other conspiracy theories where when confronted with opposite evidence, they aren't likely to engage with it in good faith.