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This is the story of how I bought enterprise-grade AI hardware designed for liquid-cooled server racks that was converted to air cooling, and then back again, s
by dnhkng 10mo ago
This is the story of how I bought enterprise-grade AI hardware designed for liquid-cooled server racks that was converted to air cooling, and then back again, survived multiple near-disasters (including GPUs reporting temperatures of 16 million degrees), and ended up with a desktop that can run 235B parameter models at home. It’s a tale of questionable decisions, creative problem-solving, and what happens when you try to turn datacenter equipment into a daily driver.
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- ipsum2 10mo agoI saw the same post on Reddit and was so tempted to purchase it, but I live in the US. Cool to see it wasn't a scam!
- amirhirsch 10mo ago# Tell the driver to completely ignore the NVLINK and it should allow the GPUs to initialise independently over PCIe !!!! This took a week of work to find, thanks Reddit! I needed this info, thanks for putting it up. Can this really be an issue for every data center?
- dauertewigkeit 10mo agoIt's a very interesting read, but a lot is not clear. How does the seller get these desktops directly from NVIDIA? And if the seller's business is custom made desktop boxes, why didn't he just fit the two H100s into a better desktop box?
- Ntrails 10mo ago> why didn't he just fit the two H100s into a better desktop box? I expect because they were no longer in the sort of condition to sell as new machines? They were clearly well used and selling "as seen" is the lowest reputational risk associated with offload
- renewiltord 10mo agoAt that pricing I honestly thought they fell off a truck. Even well used H100 go for more than that entire system. In the US an RTX A6000 Ada is already close in price.
- wtallis 10mo agoThere also weren't H100s available to scavenge. GH200 puts the Grace CPU and H100 GPU on a big module with a custom form factor and connectors, so the only viable route for using those GPUs was to keep all the electronics together and build a suitable case and cooling system around them. There wasn't any way to adapt any of this for use in an ordinary EATX case or with a different CPU, because the GPUs weren't PCIe add-in cards.
- dnhkng 10mo agoThese are on a custom board from Nvidia, so its not possible to separate them. I think the seller usually gets H100's and them into a custom case, with a PCIE adapter to the server GPUs. This thing too unwieldy to make into a desktop (you can see how much effort it took), and was in pretty bad condition. I think he just wanted to get rid of it without having to deal with returns. I took a bet on it, and was lucky it paid out.
- GPTshop 10mo agoWe build these desktops from Nvidia servers we buy from reputable manufacturers like Pegatron, Gigabyte, Asrock Rack, and many more. H100 PCI and GH200 are two very different things. The advantages of Grace Hopper are much higher connections speeds, bandwidth and lower power consumption.
- pointbob 10mo agoLoved it. You are mgyver. You should post more stuff on Twitter. Thanks for the story.
- ProAm 10mo agoWhich is how you learn to become an expert. I love it
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 10mo agoDid it behave like a star at 16 million degrees? Lol
- jerome-jh 10mo agoSecuring soldered components with epoxy? You have to be very confident at your soldering :) You had no hot glue?
- dnhkng 10mo agoI've had a bit of practice, but I don't have the right gear for this level of soldering. It took maybe an hour to solder in 2 components, after many failed attempts. Persistence beats intelligence?
- baud147258 10mo agoWhen you said you paid cash, you paid all ~7.5k€ in paper money? How do you get that much cash out of your bank?
- devilbunny 10mo agoPresumably by going there, showing your ID, and withdrawing it? They might make you wait a day to have that much on hand, but not more than that.
- leipert 10mo agoWe are talking Germany here. People buy cars in cash. You don’t even have to necessarily wait a day.
- devilbunny 10mo agoTrue, which is why I said “might”. Even in the US. I only have to call ahead if I want smaller bills - $20 and $100 they usually have plenty of unless it’s a tiny branch.
- baud147258 10mo agook, I guess. I just never handled that many. I would also have though that the bank might ask questions
- devilbunny 10mo agoCash deposits or withdrawals over $10k in the US will be reported to the Treasury but if you don’t do them often it won’t raise a big flag, and the bank doesn’t care what you do with it. Treasury only cares if they think you are trying to evade taxes. In Germany, where large items are often purchased with cash, it would be unremarkable if you did it several times a year.
- dnhkng 10mo agoSure, its a free country! (I'm Australian, living in Germany).