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We literally have videos of these going off in public spaces. The explosions were weak enough that people literally inches away were unharmed. The only way to b
by dralley 10mo ago
We literally have videos of these going off in public spaces. The explosions were weak enough that people literally inches away were unharmed. The only way to be seriously injured is to be holding it in your hands or against your body.
You cannot seriously call it an attack "on civilians" - you especially cannot say that it's in pursuit of a non-military goal when it kicked off a literal military operation by crippling Hezbollah communications and (literally crippling) hundreds/thousands of their fighters before a land invasion of the southern border areas of Lebanon. And in any case, all war is politics.
- FireBeyond 10mo agoSuch amazingly precise bombs that they can kill Hezbollah leadership with effectiveness while "people literally inches away were unharmed". Maybe tone down the rhetoric some.
- dralley 10mo agoYou're strawmanning. I didn't claim that they were particularly lethal. In fact, they were not particularly lethal. Thousands of pagers exploded and only 12 people were killed despite these devices being held directly up to the face or against the skin (pockets). They were as close to non-lethal incapacitation, even against targets, as it is possible to get in war. When even the targets are rarely killed by the explosion, obviously that results in fewer unintended victims being hurt/killed.
- amarcheschi 10mo agoThe explosions were in fact strong enough that innocent people, including children, died https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Lebanon_electronic_device_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Lebanon_electronic_device...
- Seattle3503 10mo agoThat doesn't necessarily mean the blast radius was large. The 9 year old was killed while holding the pager. > Fatima was in the kitchen on Tuesday when a pager on the table began to beep, her aunt said. She picked up the device to bring it to her father and was holding it when it exploded, mangling her face and leaving the room covered in blood, she said. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/world/middleeast/lebanon-funeral-pager-attack.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/world/middleeast/lebanon-...
- amarcheschi 10mo agoOh, I didn't know this. Innocent people were still killed and maimed by shrapnel. The other children aged 11 was killed when his father's pager detonated
- sysguest 10mo agohmm maybe you don't know there's "intentional homicide" and "unintentional homicide", and those two differ extremely in court? seems like you like being sarcastic, but don't know basic stuff even 15 year olds know
- amarcheschi 10mo agoThe comment I was answering above above was saying that explosions were so weak that people inches away were unarmed. The doctors in Lebanon would probably dissent