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Does it? Do you have any data on how many of these devices ended up in civilian hands? Afaik they intercepted a shipment for Hamas members only. Do you have mo

by moi2388 10mo ago

Does it? Do you have any data on how many of these devices ended up in civilian hands? Afaik they intercepted a shipment for Hamas members only. Do you have more information? How many civilians there even use these pagers instead of mobile phones? Are there any?

cramsession 10mo ago
Hamas is in Gaza, this attack was against Hezbollah and civilians in Lebanon.
cjbenedikt 10mo ago
A year on, some Lebanese bystanders hurt in Israel’s pager attack still recovering... Over 3,400 were wounded when devices belonging to Hezbollah members exploded https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-year-on-some-lebanese-bystanders-hurt-in-israels-pager-attack-still-recovering/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-year-on-some-lebanese-bystan...
- AnimalMuppet 10mo ago
  3,400 bystanders? Or 3,400 mostly-Hezbollah but some bystanders?
  - cjbenedikt 10mo ago
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    - AnimalMuppet 10mo ago
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- cjbenedikt 10mo ago
  @dang why is this downvoted? Because I'm including a link to an Israely newspaper? Replying to a question asked? I don't include any opinion!
  - dang 10mo ago
    All I can tell you is that users downvoted it. As to why - your guess is as good as mine, though there are sometimes clues in the replies.
    - cjbenedikt 10mo ago
      Indeed, my reply to his reply was downvoted as well. Along the lines of: "I have a preconceived opinion and don't want to deal with facts." Quite popular in some circles these days.
hersko 10mo ago
> Afaik they intercepted a shipment for Hamas members only. What? Hamas didn't have any of the pagers, Hezbollah did.
viccis 10mo ago
>Afaik they intercepted a shipment for Hamas members only Ignoring that it was Hezbollah, not Hamas, I would point out that many of Hezbollah members are civilians.
- baskin31 10mo ago
  Members of an organization that shoots missiles over international borders and stockpiles arms cannot be called civilians.
  - viccis 10mo ago
    That would apply to Americans and Israelis too.
    - parineum 10mo ago
      I'm not a member of any American military or political organization that takes any kind of military action.
      - dragonwriter 10mo ago
        If you are part of the American electorate (including a voter who is eligible but choosing to abstain out of protest or indifference) you are part of a political organization that chooses military action.
        parineum 10mo ago
        That's fine if you think that, but I hope you know that your position is not common at all. I was born an American. Hezbollah is a group you have to choose to join. Accidents of birth and conscious choices to join a group with a violent ideology and a history of acting on it are so different, I find it hard to believe you would actually equate them. Hezbollah is more akin to joining the KKK or Weather Underground.
      - viccis 10mo ago

by moi2388 10mo ago

cramsession 10mo ago

Hamas is in Gaza, this attack was against Hezbollah and civilians in Lebanon.

cjbenedikt 10mo ago

A year on, some Lebanese bystanders hurt in Israel’s pager attack still recovering... Over 3,400 were wounded when devices belonging to Hezbollah members exploded https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-year-on-some-lebanese-bystanders-hurt-in-israels-pager-attack-still-recovering/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-year-on-some-lebanese-bystan...

AnimalMuppet 10mo ago
3,400 bystanders? Or 3,400 mostly-Hezbollah but some bystanders?
- cjbenedikt 10mo ago
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  - AnimalMuppet 10mo ago
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cjbenedikt 10mo ago
@dang why is this downvoted? Because I'm including a link to an Israely newspaper? Replying to a question asked? I don't include any opinion!
- dang 10mo ago
  All I can tell you is that users downvoted it. As to why - your guess is as good as mine, though there are sometimes clues in the replies.
  - cjbenedikt 10mo ago
    Indeed, my reply to his reply was downvoted as well. Along the lines of: "I have a preconceived opinion and don't want to deal with facts." Quite popular in some circles these days.

hersko 10mo ago

> Afaik they intercepted a shipment for Hamas members only. What? Hamas didn't have any of the pagers, Hezbollah did.

viccis 10mo ago

>Afaik they intercepted a shipment for Hamas members only Ignoring that it was Hezbollah, not Hamas, I would point out that many of Hezbollah members are civilians.

baskin31 10mo ago
Members of an organization that shoots missiles over international borders and stockpiles arms cannot be called civilians.
- viccis 10mo ago
  That would apply to Americans and Israelis too.
  - parineum 10mo ago
    I'm not a member of any American military or political organization that takes any kind of military action.
    - dragonwriter 10mo ago
      If you are part of the American electorate (including a voter who is eligible but choosing to abstain out of protest or indifference) you are part of a political organization that chooses military action.
      - parineum 10mo ago
        That's fine if you think that, but I hope you know that your position is not common at all. I was born an American. Hezbollah is a group you have to choose to join. Accidents of birth and conscious choices to join a group with a violent ideology and a history of acting on it are so different, I find it hard to believe you would actually equate them. Hezbollah is more akin to joining the KKK or Weather Underground.
    - viccis 10mo ago