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> chips that are banned in the country > The US bans the sale of these advanced semiconductors to China Whoa there, Bloomberg; just because the USA bans the s

> chips that are banned in the country > The US bans the sale of these advanced semiconductors to China Whoa there, Bloomberg; just because the USA bans the sale of something to your country doesn't make it banned in your country.

Andoryuuta 11mo ago
I believe it is very much a two-way ban, depending on the specific chips [0]. [0]: https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2025/9/17/china-bans-tech-firms-from-nvidia-chip-purchases-report https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2025/9/17/china-bans-tech-...
- pests 11mo ago
  China banned companies from buying the made-for-China 6000D. I'm sure they have knowledge of it being backdoored or underpowered/buggy.
- PunchyHamster 11mo ago
  IIRC they ban companies that got funding from china's government. i.e. they don't want their investment in AI to go to NVIDIA but to local chipmakers
sofixa 11mo ago
> Whoa there, Bloomberg; just because the USA bans the sale of something to your country doesn't make it banned in your country. Many Americans, including their government, seem to think that US laws apply globally. They have extradited Ukrainian men from Poland because that Ukrainian was running a torrent website (illegal in the US, not illegal in Ukraine nor Poland). They tried getting an Australian extradited from Sweden and the UK for supposedly hosting a website that contained information the US government considered illegally obtained. More egregiously, they have kidnapped tens to hundreds of people from various countries, sometimes on reasons as flimsy as watch model or name, to torture (sometimes to death), because a lawyer working for the president decided that's actually legal because they're waves hands "enemy combattants".
- ebbi 11mo ago
  The same government that runs Guantanamo prison, known for it's illegal torture practices and imprisoning people with no charges? Can't be!
  - epolanski 11mo ago
    Fun fact, when US prisoner of wars were water boarded by the Japanese, these got death sentences. When a US soldier was photographed in Vietnam waterboarding a vietnamese PoW he got 22 years of prison. Then came 2002 and rule of law stopped applying.
    - sofixa 11mo ago
      > When a US soldier was photographed in Vietnam waterboarding a vietnamese PoW he got 22 years of prison. Really? Did he serve more than a month? Because if the people who committed My Lai for off with slaps on the wrist, I can't imagine something as trivial as waterboarding would get any serious consequences.
      - epolanski 11mo ago
        I am referring to this is the picture [1] which was printed on the post in 1968. I am not able to find more information about the court martialed soldier, but the fact that he was sentenced to 22 years of prison is a quote from a lecture of professor Sarah Paine from the US Navy War Academy. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Waterboarding_a_captured_North_Vietnamese_soldier_near_Da_Nang.jpeg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Waterboarding_a_captured_...

Andoryuuta 11mo ago

I believe it is very much a two-way ban, depending on the specific chips [0]. [0]: https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2025/9/17/china-bans-tech-firms-from-nvidia-chip-purchases-report https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2025/9/17/china-bans-tech-...

pests 11mo ago
China banned companies from buying the made-for-China 6000D. I'm sure they have knowledge of it being backdoored or underpowered/buggy.
PunchyHamster 11mo ago
IIRC they ban companies that got funding from china's government. i.e. they don't want their investment in AI to go to NVIDIA but to local chipmakers

sofixa 11mo ago

> Whoa there, Bloomberg; just because the USA bans the sale of something to your country doesn't make it banned in your country. Many Americans, including their government, seem to think that US laws apply globally. They have extradited Ukrainian men from Poland because that Ukrainian was running a torrent website (illegal in the US, not illegal in Ukraine nor Poland). They tried getting an Australian extradited from Sweden and the UK for supposedly hosting a website that contained information the US government considered illegally obtained. More egregiously, they have kidnapped tens to hundreds of people from various countries, sometimes on reasons as flimsy as watch model or name, to torture (sometimes to death), because a lawyer working for the president decided that's actually legal because they're waves hands "enemy combattants".

ebbi 11mo ago
The same government that runs Guantanamo prison, known for it's illegal torture practices and imprisoning people with no charges? Can't be!
- epolanski 11mo ago
  Fun fact, when US prisoner of wars were water boarded by the Japanese, these got death sentences. When a US soldier was photographed in Vietnam waterboarding a vietnamese PoW he got 22 years of prison. Then came 2002 and rule of law stopped applying.
  - sofixa 11mo ago
    > When a US soldier was photographed in Vietnam waterboarding a vietnamese PoW he got 22 years of prison. Really? Did he serve more than a month? Because if the people who committed My Lai for off with slaps on the wrist, I can't imagine something as trivial as waterboarding would get any serious consequences.
    - epolanski 11mo ago
      I am referring to this is the picture [1] which was printed on the post in 1968. I am not able to find more information about the court martialed soldier, but the fact that he was sentenced to 22 years of prison is a quote from a lecture of professor Sarah Paine from the US Navy War Academy. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Waterboarding_a_captured_North_Vietnamese_soldier_near_Da_Nang.jpeg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Waterboarding_a_captured_...