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Looks like Valve also needs to start making SteamTV, just a TV without any "smart" spyware/adware OS. Until then.. this blackfriday I ordered a TV that by mirac
by jrepinc 10mo ago
Looks like Valve also needs to start making SteamTV, just a TV without any "smart" spyware/adware OS. Until then.. this blackfriday I ordered a TV that by miracle even has a DisplayPort input (Hisense 65U8Q). Unfortunately still "smart" TV but at least it does not have US-based OS but European made VIDAA which hopefully provides much less spyware than the US-alternatives, if it properly respects the EU GDPR laws. Hopefully Hisense starts/inspires a bigger movement towards DisplayPort and this HDMI mafia dies as soon as possible.
- jsheard 10mo agoThey could also potentially sidestep the issue by designing a discrete DisplayPort to HDMI chip into the system, so the HDMI 2.1+ implementation is firewalled from the open source stack. Maybe next time, if the HDMI Forum still hasn't budged by then.
- mizzack 10mo agoIntel did this with the ARC A750/770 https://community.intel.com/t5/Graphics/HDMI-2-1-UHD-144Hz-Arc-A750-A770/m-p/1452946 https://community.intel.com/t5/Graphics/HDMI-2-1-UHD-144Hz-A...
- jsheard 10mo agoYeah, the chip they used isn't ideal though because it converts DP1.4 (32Gbit) to HDMI 2.1 (48Gbit), so the bandwidth is bottlenecked on the input side. Ideally you'd want a chip which takes DP2.1, which I'm not sure exists yet, and the upcoming Steam Machine only supports DP1.4 so it wouldn't have helped in that case anyway.
- aydyn 10mo agoDoes it really matter that much? Get a $20 roku or google tv stick or whatever you're comfortable with and don't connect the TV OS.
- kotaKat 10mo agoThe TV manufacturers still make it highly annoying to avoid their integrated bullshit now. The setting to launch an LG WebOS TV into its last input on power-on is buried under 'advanced settings' several menus deep. They would rather launch you into their home hub full of preinstalled apps even if it's not online... ... and the thing came with Microsoft Copilot installed, and you couldn't uninstall it, either. The future!
- amarant 10mo agoThe trick is to not buy a "TV". Get a really big computer monitor/screen, and put it where you'd normally put your TV.
- forbiddenlake 10mo agoThis trick unfortunately falls down above a certain size, especially if you want to game at a good fps, and stay in the consumer space (price) rather than the commercial display space. That gigabyte 45 inch is too small to use above your fireplace and view across the living room. In my case I compromised on needing 4k, and got an lg 65 inch with only HDMI.
- intrasight 10mo agoAre projectors the alternative?
- zamadatix 10mo agoProjectors can be an option but the price point to get anything comparably good in terms of picture quality puts you squarely back in commercial TV pricing.
- pete5x5 10mo agoI have been doing A/V systems professionally for many years and the best system I have found recently is a Sony TV with an Apple TV. No sign-in needed for the TV for basic setup, can be easily set to come on to a particular input, works well with the Apple remote, and functions well with no internet with just a little corner pop-up saying "no internet" when you first turn it on. You should update the TV when you first unbox it (ideally via ethernet) and then disconnect it. If you don't like Apple TV then your streaming box of choice.
- ZeroCool2u 10mo agoImagine a Steam TV with the Steam Box simply built-in. That would be incredibly nice. The worst part of my brand new LG G5 OLED TV is the software itself. I'd pay a good deal more to have Valve responsible for the software running on my TV.
- jrepinc 10mo agoAnd even better make it as open as Steam Deck/Machine and allow to install any GNU/Linux distribution onto it maybe even something with KDE Plasma Bigscreen or something similar if desired.
- undersuit 10mo agoYou can get TVs with a "PC slot" like the Sharp M431-2. Just need a Steam Slot.
- yjftsjthsd-h 10mo agoIs this an actual thing people can buy, or only companies?
- undersuit 10mo agoI see one for sale at B&H Photo Video.
- kaelwd 10mo agoThat's only 60Hz though. Are there any dumb TVs with 120+ Hz VRR and HDR?
- cosmic_cheese 10mo agoIt might be nice for a little while, but the PC component is going to age much more poorly than the display will. I think the better move would be for Valve to make a really nice gamer-oriented dumb TV that's essentially a 50"+ monitor. Kind of like those BFGDs (Big Format Gaming Displays) sans the exorbitant prices. The size of a Steam Box is in comparison quite diminutive, so finding a place to put it shouldn't be too much of an issue and the ability to swap it out for a newer model with the same screen 5+ years down the road would be nice.
- unethical_ban 10mo agoIf Steam could find a good OEM to partner with, I would buy it in a heartbeat. I don't know if any of the monitor manufacturers have an incentive to help Steam produce an ad-free, open-spec monitor/television.