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> Truckers were using lower manhattan as a cut-through route to other places Popular truck route from Queens->Bronx was 59th st bridge, left onto 2nd then imme

> Truckers were using lower manhattan as a cut-through route to other places Popular truck route from Queens->Bronx was 59th st bridge, left onto 2nd then immediate left onto 59th, and another left onto 1st and take 1st all the way to Willis Ave bridge to beat the RFK bridge (formerly the Triborough) tolls.

jeffbee 11mo ago
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- squigz 11mo ago
  This is a totally normal and sane response.
  - jeffbee 11mo ago
    You have to be terminally poisoned by capitalism to not understand that giving kids asthma in order to save a few dollars is itself violence.
    - MisterTea 11mo ago
      Please. Truckers aren't intentionally giving kids asthma. Go after the capitalists who incentivized the behavior. Otherwise you're just harming more innocent people. (edit: grammar)
      - vel0city 11mo ago
        > Truckers aren't intentionally giving kids asthma The number of trucks I see that are either horribly maintained or purposefully modified to defeat emissions devices spewing massive clouds of black smoke every time they step on the accelerator pedal speaks otherwise to me. Rolling Coal is absolutely a thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal
        squigz 11mo ago
        Even those people don't deserve to be "dragged from their cabs and beaten by angry mobs"
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        MisterTea 11mo ago
        You really don't see that here in NYC. Enforcement for big rigs and even pickups curbed a lot of that. Used to be common to see a big truck or especially a city bus belch black smoke but nowadays with enforcement and emissions systems it's much less common. Ironically, the worst offenders are the obviously poorly maintained school busses.
        vel0city 11mo ago
        > Truckers aren't intentionally giving kids asthma This was the claim I was addressing. Truckers (a group that applies to more than just people in NYC) are intentionally giving kids asthma through their choices to defeat or not maintain emissions equipment, I see it every day. Maybe NYC is enforcing their emissions standards enough to no longer make it worth it to truckers there, but don't doubt they'd go back to belching toxic fumes to save a penny if given the chance there. They do it practically everywhere else.
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    - venturecruelty 11mo ago
      Violence is when OpenAI's investors have a bad quarter. :(
- MisterTea 11mo ago
  Saving money and cutting corners is business as usual so I hope you have drug and beaten quite a few CEOs as they drive this behavior.
  - venturecruelty 11mo ago
    Plenty of beatings to go around, but yeah, I agree, you have to follow the incentives here.

jeffbee 11mo ago

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squigz 11mo ago
This is a totally normal and sane response.
- jeffbee 11mo ago
  You have to be terminally poisoned by capitalism to not understand that giving kids asthma in order to save a few dollars is itself violence.
  - MisterTea 11mo ago
    Please. Truckers aren't intentionally giving kids asthma. Go after the capitalists who incentivized the behavior. Otherwise you're just harming more innocent people. (edit: grammar)
    - vel0city 11mo ago
      > Truckers aren't intentionally giving kids asthma The number of trucks I see that are either horribly maintained or purposefully modified to defeat emissions devices spewing massive clouds of black smoke every time they step on the accelerator pedal speaks otherwise to me. Rolling Coal is absolutely a thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal
      - squigz 11mo ago
        Even those people don't deserve to be "dragged from their cabs and beaten by angry mobs"
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      - MisterTea 11mo ago
        You really don't see that here in NYC. Enforcement for big rigs and even pickups curbed a lot of that. Used to be common to see a big truck or especially a city bus belch black smoke but nowadays with enforcement and emissions systems it's much less common. Ironically, the worst offenders are the obviously poorly maintained school busses.
        vel0city 11mo ago
        > Truckers aren't intentionally giving kids asthma This was the claim I was addressing. Truckers (a group that applies to more than just people in NYC) are intentionally giving kids asthma through their choices to defeat or not maintain emissions equipment, I see it every day. Maybe NYC is enforcing their emissions standards enough to no longer make it worth it to truckers there, but don't doubt they'd go back to belching toxic fumes to save a penny if given the chance there. They do it practically everywhere else.
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  - venturecruelty 11mo ago
    Violence is when OpenAI's investors have a bad quarter. :(
MisterTea 11mo ago
Saving money and cutting corners is business as usual so I hope you have drug and beaten quite a few CEOs as they drive this behavior.
- venturecruelty 11mo ago
  Plenty of beatings to go around, but yeah, I agree, you have to follow the incentives here.